Re: [orbit-dev] Addind/Updating Libaries in Orbit

["Christian W. Damus" <cdamus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Heh heh ...

I have added a first section to the Adding Bundles to Orbit page:

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Adding_Bundles_to_Orbit#Before_You_Do_Anything

And a FAQ:

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orbit_Faq#Do_I_raise_a_CQ_against_Orbit_to_contribute_my_3rd-party_lib.3F

Feel free to "edit mercilessly."

Thanks!

cW

On 10-Nov-08, at 5:22 PM, David M Williams wrote:

> I vaguely remember discussing it before too and while I won't recall  
> the
> outcome, but I do recall at the time being surprised that I could  
> not find
> anything in our Orbit charter that explicitly prohibited an "orbit  
> only"
> CQ
> http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/orbit/
>
> but is certainly implied on our Orbit home page
> http://www.eclipse.org/orbit/
>
> So even if technically possible under rules of our charter, to me it  
> still
> makes more sense business-wise, since otherwise, the Tools PMC would
> basically be approving the third party content be reviewed by Eclipse
> Foundation staff, etc., even though no Eclipse Project was known to  
> need
> it or have approved it. There might be some such cases, but I think  
> they'd
> be pretty rare and require some "extra" justification.
>
> In fact, I recall arguing we didn't need the Orbit CQ at all, if  
> approved
> elsewhere ... but, I well recall the outcome of that discussion!  
> [i.e. we
> do] :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> "Christian W. Damus" <cdamus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:
> Orbit Developer discussion <orbit-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:
> 11/10/2008 01:10 PM
> Subject:
> Re: [orbit-dev] Addind/Updating Libaries in Orbit
>
>
>
> Hi, David,
>
> Sorry to have given out bad advice.  I had thought that we started out
> with this process, and that following discussions with the
> Foundation's legal team, it was decided to take the other tack.  I
> agree that it seems desirable to track the origin of Eclipse's initial
> requirement for 3rd-party libs this way, and searching through the
> mail archive, I don't find anything that supports my wonky memory.
>
> Perhaps we should add a step 0 to the "Adding Bundles to Orbit" page
> in the Wiki, and a note about this in the FAQ?  If we're all agreed, I
> can draft something.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christian
>
> On 10-Nov-08, at 12:49 PM, David M Williams wrote:
>
> > > > You should submit first the CQs for contribution to Orbit, then
> > > > (once
> > > > those are approved) the piggy-back (PB) CQs for re-use of these
> > > > bundles in your project.
> > >
> > > Turns our that I can't submit Orbit CQs. Thus, I started submitting
> > > CQs
> > > for my project first.
> >
> > Don't mean to start a controversy, but actually, I believe that's the
> > better procedure anyway. I'm not sure anyone polices it, so the other
> > approach might have worked, but we are supposed to only put things in
> > Orbit that are used by other Eclipse Projects ... hence, its better
> > that
> > the original requesting Project gets the original CQ approved first,
> > then
> > all others (including Orbit) can piggy back off that one. This way,
> > there's at least one PMC somewhere that reviews it and with their
> > approval state "... yes, this is worth expending resource and money  
> > on
> > for our project ...".
> >
> >
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