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RE: [orbit-dev] Bugfixing 3rd party code due to lack of a release?

Hi Chris,
 
The last Commons Net release was December 3, 2005 (!)
How likely would you think they release something now?
I did ask, though, waiting for response.
 
But even if, that release would include much other stuff that I do not want
in a maintenance release to fix that one nasty bug.
 
Problem with the nightlies is that
1.) Virtually every file has changed since they modified the file copyright headers.
     So, this would need to go through another rull EMO review.
2.) They might contain other, potentially less tested fixes. I do not want this -
     I just want the one well-tested fix.
 
Without the fix, our FTP support is pretty unusable IMHO since it
could deadlock at any time. I'd love to get that fixed in a maintenance
release before Ganymede!

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

 


From: orbit-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:orbit-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Aniszczyk
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:39 PM
To: Orbit Developer discussion
Cc: Darin Swanson
Subject: Re: [orbit-dev] Bugfixing 3rd party code due to lack of a release?

My personal feelings coming from the long days of maintaining patches for java libraries in a Linux distro... Orbit shouldn't be in the business of applying patches like this.

I would either do this in order of priority
1) Build a relationship with the commons net folk to get them to publish a release. I believe Darin Swanson has done a pretty good job about this with Ant, maybe he has advice.
2) If this fails and we are truly in dire straits for Ganymede, I'd put a nightly in (http://people.apache.org/builds/commons/nightly/commons-net/) but that decision shouldn't be taken lightly.

I do respect your desire to solve this nasty user issue, but I'd hold off as long as possible in my opinion... hoping for a new commons release.

Cheers,

---
Chris Aniszczyk | IBM Lotus | Eclipse Committer | http://mea-bloga.blogspot.com | +1.860.839.2465

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"Oberhuber, Martin" <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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"Orbit Developer discussion" <orbit-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Janet Campbell" <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Bjorn Freeman-Benson" <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Date:

09/12/2007 07:31 AM

Subject:

[orbit-dev] Bugfixing 3rd party code due to lack of a release?




Hello,

We have a major bug open that can lead to deadlocks
when working with FTP. This is a known problem in
Jakarta Commons Net:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=202758 

We are not able to work around this major issue by
using the original 3rd party lib. But patches exist
for that very problem in Commons Net, and those patches
have been applied to the Commons Net codebase:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NET-3
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NET-73

The patches have been provided and tested by the
submitter since more than a year. They seem to be
scheduled for an 1.4.x or 1.5 release, but such a
release has not (yet) happened and it is unclear
if it would happen.

I would very much like to apply those patches to the
Commons Net version we use at Eclipse. In fact I did
apply and test the patches, and I'm ready to check in,
but here is what I do not know:

* What do we (in Orbit) think about home-grown bugfix
 versions of 3rd party libs that have not been officially
 released by the maintainer? Can we do this?

* What about IP cleanliness? The patches are 11 and 16
 lines of code respectively, plain bugfix only, and
 I am in contact with the original author / submitter.
 Can we let this into Eclipse CVS?

Thanks for any help and insight.

I'd be ready to check in (just 1 .class file and 1
src.zip changed) when I get a GO to put this into the
Fall maintenance.

Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
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