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Hi,Tom

I'm sorry that the details of my proposal may be on a private personal
page,so other people that are neither members from the participating
organizations nor mentors joined gsoc may not see it.

>Could you give me an URL?

>Tom

>zhong nanhai schrieb:
>> You can see the comments below my proposal.
> >Many people has advised me make these contributions to 'Nebula' other
> >than SWT and I also think that it's a good idea.
> >Because the deadline of application of gsoc has passed and I can not
> >edited my proposal again,do not be confused by the title and some
> >content of this proposal.
> >I have asked my  mentor and he tell me I should try to communicate
>> with you to get to know how to make my contributions.
>>
>>
> >Regards,
> >higer
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> From: Tom Schindl <listom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Then, how should I submit my code? -- gsoc
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> Hi Lukasz,
>
> I read your blog and immediately asked myself:
>
> 1) Did you get in contact with the SWT people and are they interested in
>    this contribution, if not =>
> 2) Would you like to contribute your control through nebula to the
>    broader community?
>
> This reminds me of another thing. Did we ever defined whether a widget
> provided through nebula has to be platform-independent? I guess not and
> at least CTree was a widget which only worked properly on Linux IIRC. So
> I think it ok to have widgets which are not working on all platforms -
> it only has to be documented.
>
> Tom
>
> Łukasz Milewski schrieb:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I don't like to brag about my personal page, but I just want to point
>> that images in ComboBox are on my small list of things to do (I couldn't
>> sign up to GSOC 'cause I'm not a student anymore)
>> - http://www.milewski.ws/2009/04/combo-box-with-images-in-swt/
>> Like I've mentioned on blog post, this widget hopefully be available
>> within 2 weeks.
>>
>> Nanhnai,
>> You can contact me privately about this widget.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lukasz Milewski
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 16:44, Nicolas Richeton
>> <nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>     I just took a look at the Gsc project you where accepted :
>>
>>     "Student Name:           nanhai zhong
>>     Mentor Name:    ivar meikas
>>     Title:  Basic SWT widgets enhancement
>>     Abstract:       Though a project 'Nebula' has been developed to make
>>     the widget in Eclipse rich and colorful, the basic widgets are all
>>     the same and not enhanced. For example,the combo box widget still
>>     does not support an image item or a mix(image and text).You may say
>>     that SWT is only a wrapper of the native GUI libraries of the
>>     operating systems and we can not do any more.But I do not think
>>     so,there are many aspects for basic SWT widgets to be enhanced. "
>>
>>     It seems you'll be working on the SWT widgets, not the nebula ones.
>>     You should get in touch with Ivar Meikas to see how you can submit
>>     your work to the SWT project.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     --
>>     Nicolas
>>
>>
>>
>>     Le 29 avr. 09 à 16:35, zhong nanhai a écrit :
>>
>>
>>         I am accepted as a Google Summer Code student for Eclipse
>>         Foundation.And the project I will be working on is 'Nebula'.I'm
>>         confused how should I submit my code if I have finished my work.
>>         As you say,I should submit many bugs to be a committer,and then
>> you
>>         may accept me.If I'm not accepted as an 'Nebula' committer,how
>> does
>>         Google evaluate my gsoc work after this summer code activity?
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         higer
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         nebula-dev mailing list
>>         nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev
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>>
>>     --
>>     Nicolas Richeton
>>     nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:07:31 +0800
> From: zhong nanhai <higerinbeijing@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Then, how should I submit my code? -- gsoc
> To: nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> You can see the comments below my proposal.
> Many people has advised me make these contributions to 'Nebula' other
> than SWT and I also think that it's a good idea.
> Because the deadline of application of gsoc has passed and I can not
> edited my proposal again,do not be confused by the title and some
> content of this proposal.
> I have asked my  mentor and he tell me I should try to communicate
> with you to get to know how to make my contributions.
>
>
> Regards,
> higer
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:13:01 +0200
> From: Tom Schindl <listom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Then, how should I submit my code? -- gsoc
> To: Nebula Dev <nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <49F86E7D.800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Could you give me an URL?
>
> Tom
>
> zhong nanhai schrieb:
>> You can see the comments below my proposal.
>> Many people has advised me make these contributions to 'Nebula' other
>> than SWT and I also think that it's a good idea.
>> Because the deadline of application of gsoc has passed and I can not
>> edited my proposal again,do not be confused by the title and some
>> content of this proposal.
>> I have asked my  mentor and he tell me I should try to communicate
>> with you to get to know how to make my contributions.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> higer
>> _______________________________________________
>> nebula-dev mailing list
>> nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:24:07 +0200
> From: ?ukasz Milewski <lukasz.milewski@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Then, how should I submit my code? -- gsoc
> 	questions
> To: Nebula Dev <nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> 	<770e2da80904290824m1dcc1c29sb60b17c0951c22a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hello Tom,
> As of yet I don't have any plans how to follow up with ComboBoxEx widget
> after I finish coding. I would be happy to contribute it to Nebula project,
> but still it would have to be coordinated with SWT core team due to the
> missing structures and method in OS class.
>
> There are also some issues to resolve that currently are keeping my awake,
> like, how to properly write "native" widgets outside the
> org.eclipse.swt.widgets package.
>
> Regards,
> Lukasz Milewski
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 17:06, Tom Schindl <listom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lukasz,
>>
>> I read your blog and immediately asked myself:
>>
>> 1) Did you get in contact with the SWT people and are they interested in
>>   this contribution, if not =>
>> 2) Would you like to contribute your control through nebula to the
>>   broader community?
>>
>> This reminds me of another thing. Did we ever defined whether a widget
>> provided through nebula has to be platform-independent? I guess not and
>> at least CTree was a widget which only worked properly on Linux IIRC. So
>> I think it ok to have widgets which are not working on all platforms -
>> it only has to be documented.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Łukasz Milewski schrieb:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I don't like to brag about my personal page, but I just want to point
>> > that images in ComboBox are on my small list of things to do (I couldn't
>> > sign up to GSOC 'cause I'm not a student anymore)
>> > - http://www.milewski.ws/2009/04/combo-box-with-images-in-swt/
>> > Like I've mentioned on blog post, this widget hopefully be available
>> > within 2 weeks.
>> >
>> > Nanhnai,
>> > You can contact me privately about this widget.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Lukasz Milewski
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 16:44, Nicolas Richeton
>> > <nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     I just took a look at the Gsc project you where accepted :
>> >
>> >     "Student Name:           nanhai zhong
>> >     Mentor Name:    ivar meikas
>> >     Title:  Basic SWT widgets enhancement
>> >     Abstract:       Though a project 'Nebula' has been developed to make
>> >     the widget in Eclipse rich and colorful, the basic widgets are all
>> >     the same and not enhanced. For example,the combo box widget still
>> >     does not support an image item or a mix(image and text).You may say
>> >     that SWT is only a wrapper of the native GUI libraries of the
>> >     operating systems and we can not do any more.But I do not think
>> >     so,there are many aspects for basic SWT widgets to be enhanced. "
>> >
>> >     It seems you'll be working on the SWT widgets, not the nebula ones.
>> >     You should get in touch with Ivar Meikas to see how you can submit
>> >     your work to the SWT project.
>> >
>> >     Regards,
>> >     --
>> >     Nicolas
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     Le 29 avr. 09 à 16:35, zhong nanhai a écrit :
>> >
>> >
>> >         I am accepted as a Google Summer Code student for Eclipse
>> >         Foundation.And the project I will be working on is 'Nebula'.I'm
>> >         confused how should I submit my code if I have finished my work.
>> >         As you say,I should submit many bugs to be a committer,and then
>> you
>> >         may accept me.If I'm not accepted as an 'Nebula' committer,how
>> does
>> >         Google evaluate my gsoc work after this summer code activity?
>> >
>> >         Regards,
>> >         higer
>> >         _______________________________________________
>> >         nebula-dev mailing list
>> >         nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >         https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev
>> >
>> >
>> >     --
>> >     Nicolas Richeton
>> >     nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     _______________________________________________
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>> >     nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >     https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev
>> >
>> >
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> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:30:41 +0200
> From: Tom Schindl <listom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Then, how should I submit my code? -- gsoc
> 	questions
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> Hi,
>
> Well first of all I appreciate that people are working on our code and
> improve it. You don't automatically get a committer simply because you
> are accepted by Google and Eclipse as a summer of code student.
>
> Like Nicolas also mentions your project proposal doesn't say anything
> about Nebula though from your description it might indicate that you
> might contribute to Nebula and not SWT (nor is it part of
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2009_Ideas or did I miss it).
>
> I remember seeing this proposal and immediately asked myself:
>
> Is this coordinated with the Project-Team(s) from SWT
>   => Did you write a mail to swt-dev before proposing your project for
>      SoC?
>   => Did you write a mail to nebula-dev before proposing your project
>      for SoC
>
> I didn't asked myself the second question until now that you show up
> here :-)
>
> This is nothing personal and I'd like to give you a warm welcome and
> ideally all your code flows back to Eclipse (whether it is SWT or
> Nebula) but we currently have no resources dedicated to such a task
> (pretending we could dedicate resources which not the case for nebula
> because none of us is employed to work on it)
>
> Another thing IIRC is that your project code has to be hosted on
> code.google.com but the SoC people from Eclipse.org know this better and
> then flows back to us when the project has ended.
>
> So there are many open ends and I'm not sure how to proceed. Maybe some
> questions:
>
> * Do you create new cool widgets
>   => We are open for contributions of new widgets and once you have code
>      in your code google repository and the code is testable you can
>      point us to it.
>
> * Do you plan to enhance existing widgets
>   => Where do they live currently in SWT, Nebula, ... .
>      - SWT: SWT and Nebula-Committer need to get to gether and decide
>             what to do if SWT refuses to add fix in their code we here
>             at nebula need to decide if we think this widget makes sense
>             to us => Simply cloning code over from SWT and maintaining
>             an SWT-Fork is a no go!
>
>      - Nebula: As mentionned file bugs and attach patches
>
> Tom
>
> zhong nanhai schrieb:
>> I am accepted as a Google Summer Code student for Eclipse
>> Foundation.And the project I will be working on is 'Nebula'.I'm
>> confused how should I submit my code if I have finished my work.
>> As you say,I should submit many bugs to be a committer,and then you
>> may accept me.If I'm not accepted as an 'Nebula' committer,how does
>> Google evaluate my gsoc work after this summer code activity?
>>
>> Regards,
>> higer
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev
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