Re: [nebula-dev] Nebula Website

[Emil Crumhorn <emil.crumhorn@xxxxxxxxx>]

I would strongly advise against KTable. Like you said it's old, and we evaluated it thoroughly (well, I did) for our rather large-scale app at our company and it was bug-ridden and problematic. I've actually evaluated it twice, as we used it back in 2006 when it was still rather active (and we still had issues then).

The Grid is great and works really well, Tom is updating it as well so it's moving along. We used that for a while but unfortunately had issues using the viewer as it can't do Virtual mode (yet).

Currently we use Nat table and I'm really liking it. It still has some bugs but there's a whole team actively working on it, and just yesterday the author sent me a new "core" after I reported a bug the day before. 

I think it comes down to what you need to use it for. The grid is much easier to use than Nat as Nat uses a rather non-SWT API.

And just as a reference, I wrote an article on using all 3 tables with Glazed Lists that you may want to check out as it'll give you a little more insight into the different table styles:

http://hexapixel.com/2009/01/02/glazed-lists-swt-tables-true

Cheers,
Emil

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Syed Hamid Tirmizi <hamid@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Nicolas. That worked.

I am working on a project, and need to make a choice between Grid and
KTable. Anyone has any ideas on why one is better that the other?

It seems to me that KTable has not been worked on since 2007, judging
by their forum activity and last bug closed. However, no bugs seem to
have been closed on Grid since last Sep either. I don't know how to
find out the aliveness of either widget.

Thanks,

-- Hamid

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Nicolas Richeton
<nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Hamid,
>
> This CVS contains the code for all nebula widgets, but the web access link
> is invalid (need to fix that)
> You can look at the cvs content (web access)  at
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.swt.nebula/?root=Technology_Project
>
> This is the best way to get the latest widgets.
>
> --
> Nicolas
> Le 13 févr. 09 à 00:36, Syed Hamid Tirmizi a écrit :
>
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> Any word on when the nebula widgets will be available for download again?
>>
>> I can see a way to access a CVS here:
>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projectid=technology.nebula
>>
>> Does this contain nebula project code as well?
>> Any tips would be very helpful, thanks.
>>
>>
>> - Hamid
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Jeremy Dowdall <jeremyd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> To conform with incubation the downloads need a few things:
>>>
>>> located on eclipse servers
>>> packaged correctly (have "incubation" in the bundle description - see the
>>> link below)
>>> named correctly (have "incubation" in the zip file name - see the link
>>> below)
>>> located on the download page (which has the incubation logo)
>>>
>>> None of our downloads conformed so they were removed to speed the process
>>> (which apparently worked as it only took Anne a few minutes to confirm).
>>>
>>> Now that the project is conforming, we can bring back the downloads, but
>>> they need to be repackaged and linked correctly.  I'll do my best to get
>>> CDateTime back up (a more recent build) by the end of the weekend, but
>>> with
>>> our present system, each widget will be uploaded as the developer's
>>> schedule
>>> allows.
>>>
>>> I hope this clears things up a little - it's just part of growing and
>>> getting ready to move to the next level.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Matthew Hall
>>> <matthall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The new nebula site looks really good!  ..but where did the downloads
>>>> go?
>>>>
>>>> Matthew
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy Dowdall wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You're very welcome Tom :)
>>>>
>>>> Nebula is now conforming to incubation:
>>>>  http://www.eclipse.org/projects/listofprojects.php#technology.nebula
>>>>
>>>> The primary change causing this was the removal of non-conforming
>>>> download
>>>> links.  If anyone would like put up a new download link, please put it
>>>> on
>>>> the download page rather than the widget's page, and make sure to follow
>>>> the
>>>> branding guidelines (section 2, items 4 & 5):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/HOWTO/Conforming_Incubation_Branding
>>>>
>>>> Also note that there is now a single snippets page for all widgets.
>>>> When
>>>> adding additional snippets please add them there and not to the
>>>> individual
>>>> widget's page.
>>>>
>>>> I think everyone here has been able to edit the website, but if anyone
>>>> has
>>>> trouble feel free to shoot me an email and I'll try to help.
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Tom Schindl <listom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jeremy,
>>>>>
>>>>> A big big thank from me for doing this!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremy Dowdall schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a quick note to let people know that I've updated the website to
>>>>>> get Nebula a little closer to conforming with incubation rules.
>>>>>> I've also emailed EMO to let them know and find out what the next
>>>>>> steps
>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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