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Re: [nebula-dev] Custom Widget Toolkit
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These points are good, but I especially agree with the last one because even if SWT creates a top notch animation library there still may be pieces missing for making custom widgets.
For example, animating text and color gradients at a rate defined by a bezier curve may not be what widget consumers need right away, but could be helpful to widget builders.
Regardless, Nebula is a project that builds on SWT, and animation is just one more area where that could be applicable.
Andy, what are you looking to animate in Glimmer?
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Nicolas Richeton
<nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Andy,
Well that's right, but in my opinion :
- e4 isn't ready yet
- Nebula widgets already have animation support right know (PShelf, Gallery), and it's better to use the same API for all of them (allows effect sharing between widgets). Otherwise, I would have used exactly the same code as SAT directly in the Gallery widget.
- API and code is so simple that we'll be able to remap it to SWT api when e4 will be released.
- The proposal is a sub-project for Nebula, we're not trying to replace the upcoming animation support of SWT.
It seems that a draft of the new api is on the e4 demos. I didn't have time to look at it yet....
Nicolas
Le 9 janv. 09 à 15:38, Andy Maleh a écrit :
I'm very interested in Nicolas' SAT project as I would like to integrate it with Glimmer, but I thought it was just an experiment that would be made irrelevant by the next version of SWT since I heard it has animation support. Is that true?
Andy
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Jeremy Dowdall
<jeremyd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
A bit of background - Nicolas is in the process of getting his animation toolkit work, SAT, through an IP review, and I'm working on a proposed sub-project of Nebula called the Custom Widget Toolkit (CWT) to provide a home for tools (like SAT) that help us build better widgets.
There has also been some more discussion about the future direction of the Nebula project itself and how to deal with its scattered release schedule.
Tom has mentioned adding a subproject, called Incubation, that will host new / experimental / whatever widgets that are not ready to join a single unified release schedule. The base Nebula project will then be comprised only of mature widgets ready to do an official release with a review and all.
The proposed CWT would be a second subproject:Whether CWT is released in-phase with Nebula or not is something for thought and discussion.
Nicolas mentioned that he'd like his animation toolkit to be accessible to more than just Gallery. After looking it over I asked if he'd be interesting in having it be a part of CWT and he agreed that it seemed to fit there rather well. Tom then mentioned we should bring this discussion back to the newsgroup because there are other people here who may like to contribute. I'm sure he's right on that - the topic of reusable widget code has been bounced around here before, and everyone one of the Nebula committers have written something that we all could have used.
The CWT project proposal: http://www.aspencloud.com/cwt
The initial code came out of the CDateTime rewrite (whose CQ has just been approved today so code should be hitting CVS this weekend) but with the addition of things like SAT, that's just a start.
So, as widget developers, what do people think about a project like this?
- What features would you find most helpful?
- What features have you been working on that would benefit other Nebula components?
- How do we coordinate it with SWT's development? For instance, Chris G. mentioned an animation toolkit may be on the table for e4 - has anyone talked with any SWT dev about this?
- What about accessing SWT's internal classes? I've been using several to get at things SWT probably won't open up - how do we deal with issues like this?
All questions and comments welcome,
Jeremy
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