Re: [nebula-dev] Zest and Nebula

[Christopher J Gross <chris.gross@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ian,

Hmm..  I'd rather not introduce
a new name to Nebula, but we do have a naming issue.  Originally we
were thinking about just widgets for Nebula.  Now we are starting
to expand beyond that with JFace classes, Draw2D/GEF stuff and even presentation
stuff.  So our package names like org.eclipse.swt.nebula.nebface.viewers
aren't really correct.  

My original reasoning was to ensure
that if/when widgets made it into SWT we wouldn't have to change any package
names.  So if you were using a widget that moved, you needed to just
change your plugins, not your imports.  

I need to think about how we should
handle this going forward...

For the actual structure of the zest
components, as we are discussing in the other thread, we should just have
a seperate plugin project for each.  So you can set your own dependencies
on Draw2d/GEF.

Regards,
-Chris

Ian Bull <irbull@xxxxxxxxx>
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Since we are on the topic of Nebula structure, any
ideas on how we 
should structure widgets built on Draw2D/GEF?  Currently Zest has
3 
widgets, 2 of which are stable (The Graph View and the Tree Graph 
View).  There is also a nested viewer, but we are still working on
that 
(both the API and the actual implementation).   We also have another
developer (Del Myers) who has resolved a bunch of Zest bugs 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Mylar&component=Zest&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=delmyers.cs%40gmail.com&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=
and he has expressed interest in contributing (and maintaining) a 
Sequence Chart Widget that he has been working on.

I don't know if it makes sense to keep the name Zest and use these for
Draw2D/GEF widgets as a subcomponent of Nebula? 

Cheers,
Ian

Nicolas Richeton wrote:
> I still don't have commiter rights, but I give my vote. :-)
>
> +1 for the Zest components
> +1 for Ian as committer
>
> --
> Nicolas
>
> On 12/7/06, *Chris Gross * <schtoo@xxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:schtoo@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     We need at least one more vote for Ian and Zest...
>
>     -Chris
>
>     Grant Gayed wrote:
>>
>>     +1 for the Zest components and
>>     +1 for Ian as committer
>>
>>
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>>
>>     Hi Ian,
>>
>>     I think the Zest components would be great for Nebula.
>>
>>     Regarding Draw2d/GEF, I think it makes sense for
us to create a
>>     separate
>>     module within Nebula to host GEF dependent widgets.
>>
>>     I generally like simpler APIs, with a model API
as an add-on.  So
>>     I'm in
>>     favor of a SWT-like API but I don't think thats
a requirement.  The
>>     CompositeTable just offers a JFace-like API.
>>
>>     +1 for the Zest components and
>>     +1 for Ian as committer
>>
>>     -Chris
>>
>>     Ian Bull wrote:
>>     > Team-Nebula
>>     >
>>     > I have been working on a number of model based
info viz viewers. In
>>     > particular, I have created a graph viewer,
tree graph viewer,
>>     and we
>>     > are actively working on a nested graph viewer
(and we have
>>     thoughts of
>>     > a DAG viewer). The viewers have been created
to conform to JFace
>>     > standards. That is, you can set a content /
label provider,
>>     selection
>>     > changed listener, etc... to the viewer to render
your
>>     information. The
>>     > views were created initially for use in Mylar,
but several
>>     people have
>>     > pointed out that these views are more general
than this
>>     > (https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=164387).
The
>>     views can
>>     > be found on www.eclipse.org/mylar/zest.php
>>     <http://www.eclipse.org/mylar/zest.php>.
>>     > <http://www.eclipse.org/mylar/zest.php>
>>     >
>>     > I think Nebula (supplemental widgets for SWT)
is a better long term
>>     > fit for these. Currently the components have
been structured as
>>     JFace
>>     > viewers, but SWT compliance is possible too.
Also, these viewers
>>     are
>>     > all built on top of Draw2D/GEF, not really
**normal** for SWT :).
>>     >
>>     > If others think Nebula and Zest would make
a good fit, I would be
>>     > happy to explore this option.
>>     >
>>     > Any thoughts?
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Cheers,
>>     > Ian
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