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Re: [nebula-dev] Re: Release plans

Sounds like a good idea.  Lets plan to do it!  

Steve, since I'm sure you're busy and will be busy, would you like us to set a date know where we can talk over our APIs?

-Chris



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+1 from me.

I also think Tom has a good point about API stability/evolvability.  Might I suggest that in a month or two, we schedule an API review with Steve N. and/or others from the SWT team.  I'd like to uncover API evolvability issues earlier rather than later in the process.

Regards,

Dave Orme

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  1. Nebula committers - action required (Chris Gross)
  2. Re: Nebula committers - action required (nicolas richeton)
  3. Re: Nebula committers - action required (Christopher J Gross)
  4. Re: Nebula committers - action required (Tom Schindl)
  5. Re: Nebula committers - action required (Christopher J Gross)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:14:19 -0500
From: Chris Gross <schtoo@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [nebula-dev] Nebula committers - action required
To: Nebula Dev <nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Nebula Committers,

We have not spoken much about release plans for the Nebula project as a
whole.  While our widgets are generally packaged individually we still
need to set and release versions.  This allows our users to know and
understand what to expect regarding support.  In other words, once a
widget is released they can expect to get fixes without having to endure
the risk of new features.  In order to stay simple, we should release
the first version of Nebula to coincide with the 3.3 release of
Eclipse.  I don't think anyone should have a problem with this (its
about 6 months away) but let me know if you do.

What I need from each of you is a personal commitment to prepare your
widget (i.e. make em stable) for the 3.3 release.  This would require
you ensure that your widget can be delivered in the 3.3 timeframe
(June/July 07).  I also need a commitment from everyone to complete the
following things:

Javadoc - Professional development requires professional docs.  We
should also strive to match the SWT convention for javadoc including the
standard formatting for widget styles and events and the @throws in
method javadoc.
Website pages - each widget should have a page on www.eclipse.org/nebula
Examples - each widget should provide an example tab in the examples project
Snippets - each widget should have a few snippets demonstrating simple
usage.

Our current committer list is:
Chris (me)
Jeremy
David
Eric
Nicolas

I need a commitment from Jeremy and David.  Eric and Nicolas have yet to
pass the Eclipse IP process.  Eric, Nicolas, can both of you give me a
status of where you stand in that process?  Have you been assigned
commit rights?  Have you been given any indication by the Eclipse folks
when you can except IP approval?

Regards,
-Chris


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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:21:02 +0100
From: "nicolas richeton" <nicolas.richeton@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Nebula committers - action required
To: "Nebula Dev" <nebula-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Chris,

I've filled the online form and faxed the Committer Agreement and the
Employer consent.I'm now waiting for news from Eclipse. (I took some time to
send these docs)

For my widget, having all this done within 6 months seems ok, if the IP
process goes smoothly. (may be not with all the features I planned like
groups)
Anyway, I'm ready to work on it.

--
Nicolas


On 11/28/06, Chris Gross <schtoo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Nebula Committers,
>
> We have not spoken much about release plans for the Nebula project as a
> whole.  While our widgets are generally packaged individually we still
> need to set and release versions.  This allows our users to know and
> understand what to expect regarding support.  In other words, once a
> widget is released they can expect to get fixes without having to endure
> the risk of new features.  In order to stay simple, we should release
> the first version of Nebula to coincide with the 3.3 release of
> Eclipse.  I don't think anyone should have a problem with this (its
> about 6 months away) but let me know if you do.
>
> What I need from each of you is a personal commitment to prepare your
> widget (i.e. make em stable) for the 3.3 release.  This would require
> you ensure that your widget can be delivered in the 3.3 timeframe
> (June/July 07).  I also need a commitment from everyone to complete the
> following things:
>
> Javadoc - Professional development requires professional docs.  We
> should also strive to match the SWT convention for javadoc including the
> standard formatting for widget styles and events and the @throws in
> method javadoc.
> Website pages - each widget should have a page on www.eclipse.org/nebula
> Examples - each widget should provide an example tab in the examples
> project
> Snippets - each widget should have a few snippets demonstrating simple
> usage.
>
> Our current committer list is:
> Chris (me)
> Jeremy
> David
> Eric
> Nicolas
>
> I need a commitment from Jeremy and David.  Eric and Nicolas have yet to
> pass the Eclipse IP process.  Eric, Nicolas, can both of you give me a
> status of where you stand in that process?  Have you been assigned
> commit rights?  Have you been given any indication by the Eclipse folks
> when you can except IP approval?
>
> Regards,
> -Chris
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:52:52 -0500
From: Christopher J Gross <chris.gross@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Thanks for the quick response Nicolas.  You don't have to have your widget
100% complete by 3.3.  Just stable and reasonably bug-free.  We will, of
course, start working on the next release after 3.3 where you can add any
remaining features.

Ok, still waiting to hear from Jeremy, David and Eric.

Regards,
-Chris




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Hi Chris,

I've filled the online form and faxed the Committer Agreement and the
Employer consent.I'm now waiting for news from Eclipse. (I took some time
to send these docs)

For my widget, having all this done within 6 months seems ok, if the IP
process goes smoothly. (may be not with all the features I planned like
groups)
Anyway, I'm ready to work on it.

--
Nicolas


On 11/28/06, Chris Gross < schtoo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Nebula Committers,

We have not spoken much about release plans for the Nebula project as a
whole.  While our widgets are generally packaged individually we still
need to set and release versions.  This allows our users to know and
understand what to expect regarding support.  In other words, once a
widget is released they can expect to get fixes without having to endure
the risk of new features.  In order to stay simple, we should release
the first version of Nebula to coincide with the 3.3 release of
Eclipse.  I don't think anyone should have a problem with this (its
about 6 months away) but let me know if you do.

What I need from each of you is a personal commitment to prepare your
widget (i.e. make em stable) for the 3.3 release.  This would require
you ensure that your widget can be delivered in the 3.3 timeframe
(June/July 07).  I also need a commitment from everyone to complete the
following things:

Javadoc - Professional development requires professional docs.  We
should also strive to match the SWT convention for javadoc including the
standard formatting for widget styles and events and the @throws in
method javadoc.
Website pages - each widget should have a page on www.eclipse.org/nebula
Examples - each widget should provide an example tab in the examples
project
Snippets - each widget should have a few snippets demonstrating simple
usage.

Our current committer list is:
Chris (me)
Jeremy
David
Eric
Nicolas

I need a commitment from Jeremy and David.  Eric and Nicolas have yet to
pass the Eclipse IP process.  Eric, Nicolas, can both of you give me a
status of where you stand in that process?  Have you been assigned
commit rights?  Have you been given any indication by the Eclipse folks
when you can except IP approval?

Regards,
-Chris
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:57:35 +0100
From: Tom Schindl <listom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Nebula committers - action required
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Hi,

But the API has to be stable at this point or does Nebula doesn't stay
backwards compatible. I have learned my lessons with (Tod/Boris) don't
expose too much API you'll have to maintain it.

Tom

Christopher J Gross schrieb:
>
> Thanks for the quick response Nicolas.  You don't have to have your
> widget 100% complete by 3.3.  Just stable and reasonably bug-free.  We
> will, of course, start working on the next release after 3.3 where you
> can add any remaining features.
>
> Ok, still waiting to hear from Jeremy, David and Eric.
>
> Regards,
> -Chris
>
>
>



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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:01:11 -0500
From: Christopher J Gross <chris.gross@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Nebula committers - action required
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Good point.  Thats one of the main reasons for producing a release - for
API stability.  Once we can't make any more breaking changes.

Regards,
-Chris




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Hi,

But the API has to be stable at this point or does Nebula doesn't stay
backwards compatible. I have learned my lessons with (Tod/Boris) don't
expose too much API you'll have to maintain it.

Tom

Christopher J Gross schrieb:
>
> Thanks for the quick response Nicolas.  You don't have to have your
> widget 100% complete by 3.3.  Just stable and reasonably bug-free.  We
> will, of course, start working on the next release after 3.3 where you
> can add any remaining features.
>
> Ok, still waiting to hear from Jeremy, David and Eric.
>
> Regards,
> -Chris
>
>
>

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