Re: [mylyn-dev] Vex Editor for Mylyn Docs project

[Mik Kersten <mik@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On a good number of recent calls we have wanted screen sharing.  Since we
have no service for that provided by the Eclipse foundation, I propose
that we use Tasktop's Adobe Connect account for the Mylyn calls
(https://connectnow.acrobat.com/tasktop).  It works reasonably well across
OSes and does not require software to be installed.  I will send the URL
out with the meeting invites from now on, which we'll use in addition to
the voice dial in.

Mik

--
Dr. Mik Kersten
Tasktop CEO, Mylyn Lead, http://twitter.com/mik_kersten

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mylyn-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mylyn-dev-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steffen Pingel
> Sent: October-13-10 8:33 AM
> To: Mylyn developer discussions
> Subject: Re: [mylyn-dev] Vex Editor for Mylyn Docs project
>
> The quality on the conference calls tends to be better with land lines.
Here
> are international access numbers:
>
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>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Kilian Matt <kilian.matt@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Hi Holger,
> >
> > you can use the toll free number (866) with with Skype, that works for
me.
> >
> > Kilian
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Holger Voormann
> <eclipse@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I like the idea to move Vex to Mylyn: it makes more sense to group
> >> subprojects/features according to user requirements instead of
> >> technical implementation.
> >>
> >> The time (20:00 CERT) is fine for me but I would prefer communication
> >> via something free of charge, e.g. Skype or a German telephone
number.
> >>
> >> Best regards, Holger
> >>
> >> Am 13.10.2010 11:17, schrieb Florian Thienel:
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately I have another appointment tomorrow. So I will write
> >>> some facts about Vex and some of my thoughts in advance. I hope this
> >>> helps to see if Vex fits better into the
> >>>
> >>> Vex is a WYSIWYG (actually "...what you mean") editor for XML
> >>> documents, i.e. huge amounts of structured text written in a XML
> language (eg.
> >>> Docbook). One of the main reasons to use XML is, that it allows to
> >>> tag the content's semantic instead of simply defining a layout. This
> >>> fact is vital for single source publishing.
> >>>
> >>> The typical Vex user
> >>> * writes structured texts in a XML language (eg. Docbook, DITA, TEI
> >>> P5)
> >>> * uses the XML toolchain (XSLT + XSL-FO, etc.) to publish the texts
> >>> in serveral formats (eg. different HTML layouts, HTML-Help, PDF,
> >>> etc.)
> >>> * has little knowledge about XML and all the other underlying
> >>> technologies
> >>> * sees Vex simply as one of his tools and has little time and energy
> >>> to fiddle around with Vex
> >>>
> >>> Typical fields of application:
> >>> * technical writing
> >>> * scientific writing
> >>> * computational linguistics
> >>>
> >>> This is a whole new group of users. I think it is good to have one
> >>> "documentation" project which concentrates all effort to address
> >>> this group of users.
> >>>
> >>> Holger, me and possibly Igor will be at the ESE in three weeks.
> >>> Maybe we can make an appointment to meet in person. At least for me
> >>> this is easier than the 2,7kHz of a telephone line around the half
> >>> of the globe
> >>> ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Florian
> >>>
> >>> Am 13.10.2010 04:19, schrieb David Carver:
> >>>>
> >>>> If I can't make it then I hope that Florian, Hogler, or Igor could
> >>>> make it. Long term I think it is a better fit than wtp, but that is
> >>>> my opinion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/12/2010 03:27 PM, David Green wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your proposal sounds great. Vex is a great fit for Mylyn Docs, and
> >>>>> visa versa. Would you be able to join a Mylyn conference call to
> >>>>> discuss the particulars? If so please feel free to add an item to
> >>>>> the agenda and call in: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Mylyn/Meetings
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> David Green
> >>>>> VP of Engineering, Tasktop
> >>>>> Committer, Eclipse Mylyn
> >>>>> http://tasktop.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:25 AM, David Carver <d_a_carver@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> <mailto:d_a_carver@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've talked briefly about this with a couple of Vex committers.
> >>>>> And Mik suggested I bring this up on the mylyn-dev mailing list as
> >>>>> well. I've copied the existing Vex committers on this message as
> >>>>> well. The Vex project is a Visual Editor for XML documents. In
> >>>>> particularl document oriented XML files like DocBook, XHTML, DITA,
> >>>>> etc. It can be used to allow a WYSIWYG editing experience with out
> >>>>> having to know the underlying tags. DocBook is one of it's main
> >>>>> uses, and it also support DITA out of the box as well. It uses CSS
> >>>>> stylesheets to help control the rendering. It fits in the same
> >>>>> category as Mylyn WikiText editor, as it allows for a Single
> >>>>> Sourcing method to documentation. The resulting files produced are
> >>>>> strictly XML, and can be checked into a source code control
> >>>>> system, allowing multiple people to collaborate on the files.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vex has been a WTP Incubator project for several years, and slowly
> >>>>> has grown a dedicated committer base. The project is shooting for
> >>>>> a Spring graduation, but with the advent of the new Mylyn top
> >>>>> level project, and the overal scope of Vex, I would suggest that
> >>>>> the Documentation sub project might actually be a better place for
> >>>>> the Vex project itself. It seems to fit more into the scope there,
> >>>>> as we Web Tools while it houses the XML projects, Vex itself is
> >>>>> more about enabling the collaboration and generation of
> >>>>> documentation, and the people that are typically interested in Vex
> >>>>> are those working on documentation or articles for publication
> >>>>> (i.e. news articles, books, etc).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here are some relevant links:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP/VisualEditorForXML
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The CI Build and FindBugs reports can be found on hudson:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/WTP/job/cbi-wtp-inc.vex/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is a P2 update site that can be used to install the latest
> >>>>> versions as well, archived from the vex CI build.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>>
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