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Re: [mylyn-dev] Vex Editor for Mylyn Docs project

I like the idea to move Vex to Mylyn: it makes more sense to group subprojects/features according to user requirements instead of technical implementation.

The time (20:00 CERT) is fine for me but I would prefer communication via something free of charge, e.g. Skype or a German telephone number.

Best regards, Holger

Am 13.10.2010 11:17, schrieb Florian Thienel:
Unfortunately I have another appointment tomorrow. So I will write some
facts about Vex and some of my thoughts in advance. I hope this helps to
see if Vex fits better into the

Vex is a WYSIWYG (actually "...what you mean") editor for XML documents,
i.e. huge amounts of structured text written in a XML language (eg.
Docbook). One of the main reasons to use XML is, that it allows to tag
the content's semantic instead of simply defining a layout. This fact is
vital for single source publishing.

The typical Vex user
* writes structured texts in a XML language (eg. Docbook, DITA, TEI P5)
* uses the XML toolchain (XSLT + XSL-FO, etc.) to publish the texts in
serveral formats (eg. different HTML layouts, HTML-Help, PDF, etc.)
* has little knowledge about XML and all the other underlying technologies
* sees Vex simply as one of his tools and has little time and energy to
fiddle around with Vex

Typical fields of application:
* technical writing
* scientific writing
* computational linguistics

This is a whole new group of users. I think it is good to have one
"documentation" project which concentrates all effort to address this
group of users.

Holger, me and possibly Igor will be at the ESE in three weeks. Maybe we
can make an appointment to meet in person. At least for me this is
easier than the 2,7kHz of a telephone line around the half of the globe ;-)

Best Regards,

Florian

Am 13.10.2010 04:19, schrieb David Carver:
If I can't make it then I hope that Florian, Hogler, or Igor could
make it. Long term I think it is a better fit than wtp, but that is my
opinion.

Dave

On 10/12/2010 03:27 PM, David Green wrote:
David,

Your proposal sounds great. Vex is a great fit for Mylyn Docs, and
visa versa. Would you be able to join a Mylyn conference call to
discuss the particulars? If so please feel free to add an item to the
agenda and call in: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Mylyn/Meetings

David

--
David Green
VP of Engineering, Tasktop
Committer, Eclipse Mylyn
http://tasktop.com

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:25 AM, David Carver <d_a_carver@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:d_a_carver@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

I've talked briefly about this with a couple of Vex committers.
And Mik suggested I bring this up on the mylyn-dev mailing list as
well. I've copied the existing Vex committers on this message as
well. The Vex project is a Visual Editor for XML documents. In
particularl document oriented XML files like DocBook, XHTML, DITA,
etc. It can be used to allow a WYSIWYG editing experience with out
having to know the underlying tags. DocBook is one of it's main
uses, and it also support DITA out of the box as well. It uses CSS
stylesheets to help control the rendering. It fits in the same
category as Mylyn WikiText editor, as it allows for a Single
Sourcing method to documentation. The resulting files produced are
strictly XML, and can be checked into a source code control
system, allowing multiple people to collaborate on the files.

Vex has been a WTP Incubator project for several years, and slowly
has grown a dedicated committer base. The project is shooting for
a Spring graduation, but with the advent of the new Mylyn top
level project, and the overal scope of Vex, I would suggest that
the Documentation sub project might actually be a better place for
the Vex project itself. It seems to fit more into the scope there,
as we Web Tools while it houses the XML projects, Vex itself is
more about enabling the collaboration and generation of
documentation, and the people that are typically interested in Vex
are those working on documentation or articles for publication
(i.e. news articles, books, etc).

Here are some relevant links:

http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP/VisualEditorForXML

The CI Build and FindBugs reports can be found on hudson:

https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/WTP/job/cbi-wtp-inc.vex/

There is a P2 update site that can be used to install the latest
versions as well, archived from the vex CI build.

Dave

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