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Re: [mylar-dev] dev build for 3.3M7

Mik Kersten wrote:
Regarding the update site, as mentioned below the Sandbox feature is not intended for daily use. This means that there are things in it which our UI is not designed around. The highlighters are the best example. We decided way back that foreground highlighters in views that are constantly visible, such as the Package Explorer and the Task List, were a bad idea and removed them by putting them into the Sandbox. They make icon decorations and overlays harder to notice, add to the visual noise, and the SDK refrains from using them (e.g. to highlight errors in the Package Explorer).
Just for the record, we have discussed it several times and I thoght that there was an agreement that there is no need to highlight background in the views other then Task List. Am I wrong?
As the fidelity of our UI increases it gets increasingly harder to optimize the look-and-feel around any purposely removed or experimental features. However, lots of people were downloading all Sandbox plug-ins because it was the easiest thing to do when getting a dev build. As such I think that it is best to require users to use the additional site if they want to experiment with Sandbox features. We need to be clear about the fact that these are currently more experimental ideas that were removed than they are power toys. To make that clear we could split the Sandbox feature up into separate features. There haven't been any additional complaints, but if anyone finds this inconvenient I suggest filing a bug on which features you think should be promoted out of the Sandbox or on how the Sandbox could be restructured.

Regarding Trac and JIRA connectors, in terms of update manager-based installs for 2.0M3. Not that these numbers do not include update site zip downloads or the various redistributions of Mylar, so they are only intended for comparison purposes.

    Tasks    Foc-UI    Bgzla    Jira    Trac
total    17939    15965    13279    12653    12993
e3.2    16011    14204    11899    11403    11702
e3.3    1928    1761    1380    1250    1291
Mik, the point I was trying to make is that Bgzla, Jira and Trac plugins are downloaded together for the same reason and you don't create separate update sites only to make it more difficult to download.

Also note that there is an upgrade risk that an old Sandbox plugin can be activated with updated other plugins and break something. With separate update sites there is probably no easy way around that.

 regards,
 Eugene




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