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Re: [mylar-dev] dev build for 3.3M7
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Regarding the update site, as mentioned below the Sandbox feature is not
intended for daily use. This means that there are things in it which
our UI is not designed around. The highlighters are the best example.
We decided way back that foreground highlighters in views that are
constantly visible, such as the Package Explorer and the Task List, were
a bad idea and removed them by putting them into the Sandbox. They make
icon decorations and overlays harder to notice, add to the visual noise,
and the SDK refrains from using them (e.g. to highlight errors in the
Package Explorer).
As the fidelity of our UI increases it gets increasingly harder to
optimize the look-and-feel around any purposely removed or experimental
features. However, lots of people were downloading all Sandbox plug-ins
because it was the easiest thing to do when getting a dev build. As
such I think that it is best to require users to use the additional site
if they want to experiment with Sandbox features. We need to be clear
about the fact that these are currently more experimental ideas that
were removed than they are power toys. To make that clear we could
split the Sandbox feature up into separate features. There haven't been
any additional complaints, but if anyone finds this inconvenient I
suggest filing a bug on which features you think should be promoted out
of the Sandbox or on how the Sandbox could be restructured.
Regarding Trac and JIRA connectors, in terms of update manager-based
installs for 2.0M3. Not that these numbers do not include update site
zip downloads or the various redistributions of Mylar, so they are only
intended for comparison purposes.
Tasks Foc-UI Bgzla Jira Trac
total 17939 15965 13279 12653 12993
e3.2 16011 14204 11899 11403 11702
e3.3 1928 1761 1380 1250 1291
Mik
Eugene Kuleshov wrote:
As a long time user of some of the sandbox features (namely task
highlighting) I think it was a bad idea to move sandbox feature into
such obscurely hidden update site. Sandbox feature did say experimental
stuff in its description, so it may be very well choice of the most
users to install it. Besides, is hasn't been discussed on our dev meetings.
regards,
Eugene
PS: btw, how many users installed Trac and JIRA connectors? Can you
estimate how many users are actually using them?
Mik Kersten wrote:
The Eclipse 3.3M7 release is now available and support by this
evening's Mylar dev build (2.0.0.v20070504-1930). Mylar 2.0M2 should
continue to work in 3.3M7.
http://www.eclipse.org/mylar/dl.php
Mylar 2.0M3 is scheduled to be release next Friday, and will support
both Eclipse 3.3 and 3.2.
Please note that the Sandbox feature has moved from the dev update
site. We noticed that many developers were selecting all features
when updating from the dev site and the Sandbox feature is not
intended for daily use. If you installed it but are not making use of
Sandbox feature, we suggest you uninstall it since it can clutter the
UI. The dev update sites will now be identical to the release and the
Sandbox feature can be installed from the site listed at:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Mylar_Contributor_Reference#Sandbox
Mik
