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Re: [modeling-pmc] Ed Willinks remark regarding UML2 Tools

Hi

I'm curious too.

UML 2.5 (or 2.6 or 2.7) is not the issue.

The UML 2.4.1 support in MDT/UML2 4.0 is very compatible for normal class usage, though perhaps less well-used diagrams such as Interactions may have subtle changes. For MDT/OCL I don't think any changes were needed for the actual UML model access, just a lot of debugging of standalone resource loading that culminated in UMLResourcesUtil.init().

UML2 Tools has no standalone functionality, so I suspect that a fairly mindless rebuild just changing the MDT/UML2 version bounds has a reasonable prospect of working.

    Regards

        Ed Willink




On 02/12/2012 14:31, Wendland, Marc-Florian wrote:
Hi Phillip,

I'm curious about your statement:

As you know, with UML 2.7 (or 2.6?) the UML metamodel will be largely
simplified, and UML2 tools may as well wait until then to regenerate
everything.
Where do you know that from?

Regards,
Marc-Florian
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Betreff: Re: [modeling-pmc] Ed Willinks remark regarding UML2 Tools

Why do you say "not a useable tooling"? Did you test them?
The general impression I've been given by folks using it is that it's
incomplete and not product quality.  It's also been unsupported for
years, so the community is redirected to use Papyrus for the purpose
of graphical UML editing...
When preparing slides for presentations I find the general appearance of
UML2 Tools diagrams more pleasing than Papyrus diagrams. Both tools were
useable.
Thanks for the positive feedback.
But UML2 Tools broke in Juno since it was not rebuilt to accommodate the
MDT/UML2 major version change (despite a couple of direct requests from
myself to the most prominent committer).

UML2 Tools is therefore no longer useable.
Understood. We will try to care about it as soon as possible.

As you know, with UML 2.7 (or 2.6?) the UML metamodel will be largely
simplified, and UML2 tools may as well wait until then to regenerate
everything.

Until then, GMF Tooling may just try to be as good as possible for all
its users, including Papyrus.

As mentioned, the purpoose of GMF Tooling (including UML2 Tools) is to
support Papyrus, not to compete with it.

Regards,
Philipp
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