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Re: [modeling-pmc] Project Terminations

Pierre,

Yes, the feature it supports are rather nice, but as it stands, I, as the EMF committer who would end up maintaining this code, already have far too much on my plate to tackle yet more things to support.  Things like GWT (with a modified copy of the core runtime) and RAP (which incrementing its major version because of breaking changes) are already a burden that stretches my personal capacity.  I would welcome anyone who would be willing to take ownership of Mint.

Regards,
Ed


On 21/08/2012 11:40 AM, GAUFILLET, Pierre wrote:

Hi Ed,

Just a question about Mint: this project is quite small (around 100 classes), well structured (releng, tests, etc.) and provides a nice developer experience with EMF.

Why not merging its plug-ins in a bigger active project like EMF? Once moved, I guess the maintenance effort would be very limited.

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Pierre

 

De : modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de Ed Merks
Envoyé : vendredi 17 août 2012 11:15
À : PMC members mailing list; Wayne Beaton; webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx
Objet : [modeling-pmc] Project Terminations

 

Guys,

I've completed a draft of the termination/restructuring review for the modeling project, which includes the termination of all container projects.

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling/project_termination_review_2012

This will have an significant impact on bugzilla organization, which is kind of a complete mess:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?classification=Modeling

In the ideal world, each remaining project (each direct subproject of the modeling project) would have its own bugzilla product and that product's components would be only those components the project wants for their product.  This will also allow the projects to manage their specific versions properly.  The EMF product, for example, has components for a bunch of things that are now separate projects so they really should be separate bugzilla products:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/describecomponents.cgi?product=EMF

Also as previously discussed, the website is a disaster area.  We need a landing page with a clear message.  I propose the following content:


Modeling: Faster, Smarter, Better

The bewildering complexity of modern software begs for a fresh approach focusing on high-level design, delegating menial tasks to tools and frameworks.  From a concise description of your problem domain, a complete solution can be inferred.

What is Eclipse Modeling?

Eclipse Modeling is an integrated assortment of extensible tools and frameworks for solving everyday problems.

At its core lies the Eclipse Modeling Framework, a rich abstraction for describing, composing, and manipulating structured information. Around this core, onion-like technology layers provide powerful facilities to address most everything you need.

Why use Modeling?

·        To produce high-quality results quickly.

·        To reuse tried, tested, and true solutions effectively.

·        To specify complex structured information concisely.

·        To design rich textual and graphical notations easily.

·        To implement powerful runtime solutions efficiently.

·        To exploit industrial standards interoperably.


Any and all feedback is more than welcome.

EMO/Webmaster,

The question to the webmaster/foundation is, how flexible can "we" be in this reoganization to rename bugzilla products, to change the components within those products, and to migrate all the existing bugzillas to use those restructured products and components? Should all product names be of the form Modeling.<project-short-name> to make them globally unique?  Or is the <project-short-name> already globally unique and hence that will suffice?  That would be better.  Of course I'll provide all the details for the remapping, but before I proceed with that tedious exercise, I'd like to know what's possible (and supported by the foundation team) so I can outline the proposal and review it with the PMC and all the affected projects.

Regards,
Ed

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