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[modeling-pmc] RE: GMT code has not moved into Modeling

Hi Jean,

We have another project (Modeling M2M) interested in re-distributing GMT
from their Eclipse project page.  See the following IPBugs for more
information: https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2177 and
https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2178).  
Can you give us an update as to where the GMT code base stands from a
clean-up standpoint?

Thanks,
Janet


Janet Campbell
Phone:  +1.613.224.9461, x.229 (GMT -5)
Fax:  +1.613.224.5172
janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: jbezivin@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:jbezivin@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean
Bezivin
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:31 AM
To: Janet Campbell
Cc: Richard Gronback; Ed Merks; Anne Jacko; gmt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; PMC members
mailing list; Nick Boldt
Subject: Re: GMT code has not moved into Modeling

Dear Janet,

We are going to work with all the GMT component owners in order to address
these issues as soon as possible.

Jean

On Feb 1, 2008 4:41 PM, Janet Campbell <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Information in IPZilla related to contributions pre-dating the 
> Foundation's existence will be based on About files and reflect third
party content only.
> Information after the Foundation's creation will contain both EPL and 
> non-EPL contribution information.  So the answer to both questions 
> with respect to GMT is yes, and yes.
>
> Thanks,
> Janet
>
> Janet Campbell
> Phone:  +1.613.224.9461, x.229 (GMT -5)
> Fax:  +1.613.224.5172
> janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Gronback [mailto:richard.gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:07 AM
> To: Janet Campbell; Ed Merks; 'Jean Bezivin'
> Cc: 'Anne Jacko'; gmt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; jbezivin@xxxxxxxxx; 'PMC 
> members
>
> mailing list'; 'Nick Boldt'
> Subject: Re: GMT code has not moved into Modeling
>
> So you have populated IPZilla with all contribution information that 
> was submitted prior to IPZilla's existence?  If so, this means 
> everything that was contributed to GMT since its creation and which 
> falls under the IP review policy is suspect and should be removed 
> until it has been properly reviewed, right?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
>
> On 2/1/08 9:32 AM, "Janet Campbell" <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Ed,
> >
> > Based on our IPZilla records, it appears the only thing that has 
> > been approved for GMT is the initial EPL contribution.
> >
> > Janet
> >
> > Janet Campbell
> > Phone:  +1.613.224.9461, x.229 (GMT -5)
> > Fax:  +1.613.224.5172
> > janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Merks [mailto:merks@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:17 AM
> > To: Jean Bezivin; Janet Campbell
> > Cc: Anne Jacko; gmt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; jbezivin@xxxxxxxxx; PMC members
> mailing
> > list; Richard Gronback; Nick Boldt
> > Subject: Re: GMT code has not moved into Modeling
> >
> > Jean,
> >
> > It might be good as part of the migration if folks organize their 
> > components such that Nick's build infrastructure can be used for it; 
> > see that section in 
> > http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_Project_Releng/Component_Creation.  
> > This would give Nick more oversight into what's going into those 
> > components in terms of their third party libraries and such and will 
> > help create a more uniform publishing infrastructure for the users 
> > who need to mix and match their modeling components...
> >
> > I understand that Janet has pressing concerns about some of the 
> > third
> party
> > code currently in CVS and will likely need to take action sooner 
> > rather than later to disable the modules that contain the problematic
libraries.
> > It's kind of drastic but Eclipse's IP processes aren't something to 
> > which we can pay heed only on a best effort basis.  Perhaps if 
> > Janet's team took the step of deleting the specific files or folders 
> > with the problematic content, it will leave the module in a state 
> > that will not block
> migration.
> >
> > Janet,
> >
> > It would be good if we had a complete list, with specific pointers 
> > into CVS, of all the problematic content which is in GMT's repository
today.
> > This will help us identify the things that need immediate action as
> opposed
> > to the things that can be reasonably done on a best effort basis...
> >
> >
> > Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
> > mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
> > 905-413-3265  (t/l 313)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >              "Jean Bezivin"
> >              <Jean.Bezivin@uni
> >              v-nantes.fr>
To
> >              Sent by:                  "Anne Jacko" <emo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >              jbezivin@xxxxxxxx
cc
> >              m                         "PMC members mailing list"
> >                                        <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Janet
> >                                        Campbell"
> >              02/01/2008 01:04          <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> >              AM                        gmt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx, Ed
> >                                        Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA, "Richard
> >                                        Gronback"
> >                                        <richard.gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
Subject
> >                                        Re: GMT code has not moved into
> >                                        Modeling
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Anne and Janet,
> >
> > There are many pending issues that should be solved for GMT
> > like:
> > - non active components
> > - multi-purpose components
> > - isolated component (i.e. components that are not using other 
> > modeling components)
> > - remaining uncleared code
> > - technology to modeling migration
> > - etc.
> >
> > The reason for this situation is the long history of this project 
> > that started under technology and that focused on research
contributions.
> >
> > Now we are moving to align GMT to other modeling projects but this 
> > takes a lot of time, much more than initially planned.
> > To this purpose we have made the following moves :
> > - putting pressure for a completely cleared code
> > - discussing with the component owners that have "multi purpose 
> > components" so that they define a clear goal for their component (e.g.
> > oAW and Epsilon); For oAW there seems to be a solution because they 
> > have expressed the intention to move to other modeling projects. For 
> > Epsilon we still have the complete problem.
> > - discussing with the components that do not seem to attract any 
> > user traffic (e.g. VIATRA) and see with them what actions to take 
> > (one extreme action is archiving)
> >
> > In view of this situation it has not been possible since some time 
> > to accept new components in GMT. Proposals are still waiting in the
queue.
> >
> > The plan is to take  decisions about all these pending problems at 
> > the coming Eclipsecon conference in Santa Clara. Between now and 
> > Eclipsecon, the discussion will go on to clarify the situation.
> >
> > The decision will propose a roadmap to reorganize GMT.
> > This reorganization will keep only acceptable components and will 
> > define a strict calendar for the micration from technology to 
> > modeling.
> > Needless to say that this action should only migrate IP cleared code.
> >
> > This is the best we can do for the time being,
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Jean
> >
> >
> > On Feb 1, 2008 3:31 AM, Anne Jacko <emo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hello Jean,
> >>
> >> We have noticed that the GMT code is still in /cvsroot/technology. 
> >> Is there some reason why you have not yet moved it into /cvsroot/ 
> >> modeling? This should have happened back in April 2006 when the 
> >> Modeling top-level project was created and GMT moved from 
> >> Technology to Modeling.
> >>
> >> Please let me know your plans to accomplish this. We need you to 
> >> have this finished by March 1, 2008.  Please let me know if you 
> >> have any questions. Thanks.
> >>
> >> Anne Jacko
> >> emo@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
>
>



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44322 Nantes cedex 3 - France
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- e.mail: Jean.Bezivin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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