From: Vatkov, Bogdan
[mailto:bogdan.vatkov@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:26 AM
To: mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx; PMC members mailing list; Janet
Campbell
Cc: Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Subject: RE: [modeling-pmc] FW: Teneo
Hi Mike,
Is there a map/list of EPL compatible licenses defined somewhere?
It is very interesting how EPL deals with eclipse project
dependencies to projects released under other licenses.
In the eclipse.org/stp project there are dependencies to projects
that are released under Apache license and some of those projects (Apache
CXF) even packages other projects that are released under CDDL
for example.
I see that the Orbit project already contains projects released
under Apache 2.0 licence, Apache 1.1 license, BSD style license, IBM Public
License, Common Public License 1.0 - are all of these compatible with EPL?
Is it a requirement for a third party library to be
used inside an eclipse project for this library to be in the Orbit list?
Is eventual license compatibility (w/ EPL) enough?
Too many questions:) but hope they are not that hard to anwser.
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
Bogdan
From: modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:32 AM
To: 'Janet Campbell'
Cc: 'Bjorn Freeman-Benson'; modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [modeling-pmc] FW: Teneo
Janet,
Were you aware that Teneo was prereq’ing LGPL code?
Mike Milinkovich
Office: +1.613.224.9461 x228
Mobile: +1.613.220.3223
mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx
From: Ed Merks
[mailto:merks@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:22 PM
To: mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'Bjorn Freeman-Benson'; 'Janet Campbell'; modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx;
mtaal@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Teneo
Mike,
Teneo was fully
reviewed by Janet in its present form, i.e., with these known dependencies.
It does not redistribute any GPL/LGPL code; the necessary jar must be
downloaded separately by the client. Hibernate is a very popular
technology, so providing integration for it has great value, despite the
licensing concerns.
http://www2.sys-con.com/java/readerschoice2004/frameliveupdate.cfm?BType=17
Teneo also supports JPA and JDO. Note that Shaun Smith and Stefan Eberle
(two guys working EclipseLink) were recently added as committers to Teneo so
that the overlap between their EMF persistence work for EclipseLink and
Martin's EMF persistence work for Teneo can be reconciled into more cohesive
overall solution. There is overlap, but also lots of complementary
things. It's a great example of how well our community functions.
(Martin's support for clients on the newsgroup is remarkable!)
Note that
extended capabilities such as those provided by Teneo are what's helping
to make modeling so popular:
http://www2.sys-con.com/java/readerschoice2004/frameliveupdate.cfm?BType=11
http://www2.sys-con.com/java/readerschoice2004/frameliveupdate.cfm?BType=14
Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
905-413-3265 (t/l 969)
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Ed,
I’m sending this
to you as the project leader for EMFT.
I stumbled
across Teneo this morning and
would like to make you aware of an issue with it that needs to be resolved.
Teneo’s dependence on Hibernate --- which is licensed under the LGPL --- is a
problem, as the LGPL and EPL are incompatible. Is there not another open source
persistence solution (Castor, EclipseLink) which can be used instead?
Mike
Milinkovich
Executive Director
Eclipse
Foundation, Inc.
Office:
+1.613.224.9461 x228
Mobile:
+1.613.220.3223
mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx
blog: http://milinkovich.blogspot.com
