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[mdt.dev] Re: [modeling-pmc] MDT (EODM, UML2 Tools) Graduation


I've submitted https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191537 for EODM and https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191540 for UML2 Tools. Lei and Michael, please make the required changes ASAP.

Cheers,

Kenn Hussey

Senior Software Developer
Rational Software, IBM Software Group

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Thanks, Nick, I'll be submitting bugs against EODM and UML2 Tools shortly. We should probably also update all the bugs in these components that are targeted against the wrong milestone (e.g. 2.0 -> 0.9 for EODM, 1.0 -> 0.8 for UML2 Tools).


Kenn Hussey

Senior Software Developer
Rational Software, IBM Software Group

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I'll update the build tools so that zips and jars will be numbered 0.9
and 0.8 for EODM and UML2Tools, respectively. Component leads will
need to update their manifest.mf and feature.xml files to match. Kenn,
if you want to open bugs for those work items, please cc: me on them.

Thanks,

Nick

On 6/7/07, Ed Merks <merks@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Kenn,
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> I agree.  I don't get the sense that these components are ready to exit
> incubation.
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> Thanks, Kenn.  I agree with you that #2 is the right option at this time.
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> Best,
> Rich
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> On 6/7/07 9:51 AM, "Kenneth Hussey" <khussey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Rich,
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> At this point, I think the options are as follows:
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> 1. Approve graduation of the component(s) and proceed to have the
> Foundation conduct the review. In this case the version numbers of these
> components would remain as is (2.0 for EODM and 1.0 for UML2 Tools).
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> 2. Deny graduation of the component(s) but release them as part of Europa.
> In this case, the version numbers will need to be changed (e.g. 0.9 for
> EODM, 0.8 for UML2 Tools).
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> 3. Deny graduation of the component(s) and not release them as part of
> Europa. In this case, the version numbers could stay the same, but the
> components would no longer be following the schedule of the MDT project
> (and Europa release).
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> I personally thing that option 2 is the right choice for both components.
> Back when we were planning the 1.0 release of MDT, we optimistically chose
> to target 2.0 and 1.0 for EODM and UML2 Tools in anticipation that they
> would be ready to exit incubation come release time. We were fully prepared
> to deal with the possibility that they would not be ready to graduate.
> Either way, we need to make a decision so that if we need to change version
> numbers (for example), we can do so sooner than later (e.g. before I sent
> out my legal certification for these components).
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> Yes, but there could not a ?previous release? or else they wouldn?t just
> now be exiting incubation, right?  It seems this is the first actual
> release, and I see previous 0.8 downloads, so to me it makes sense for this
> to be 1.0.
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> Regarding UML2 Tools, I don?t think it?s ready to exit incubation,
> actually.  Taking a look at the 3 communities, it?s still looks like an
> incubator.  For development, we have 1 committer from 1 company, along with
> 2 active contributors from the same company (not so diverse).  For
> adopters, I don?t know of any commercial products yet building on UML2
> Tools.  From the newsgroup activity, the user community still seems
> fledgling.  Then, there?s the fact that although Michael, Tanya, and Sergey
> have made great progress with the 4+ diagrams, it?s still a subset of UML2
> diagrams.  In conclusion, I guess I don?t see how spending another release
> cycle in incubation for this component is a bad thing.
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> And then there?s the Europa train... As UML2 Tools is on the train, it is
> supposed to be released (exiting incubation) in order to be a part.  This
> presents a complication, but at the same time seems no different than last
> year when GMF itself released/exited incubation but shipped EMFT components
> that were not yet out of incubation.  This year, it would seem that MDT is
> in this boat, releasing in Europa some new components are incubating.  The
> version number for UML2 Tools would need to reflect this (even a number
> approaching but not yet an official 1.0.0).  Other thoughts?
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> I?m not too familiar with the status of EODM, so will defer to others to
> comment until I can take a closer look.
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> Best,
> Rich
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> On 6/7/07 9:11 AM, "Kenneth Hussey" <khussey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Rich,
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> I believe the only restriction is that a major version number (i.e.
> anything before the first dot) cannot be used if still in incubation. We
> chose "2.0" for EODM because the API, and specification version that it
> conforms to, is quite different from the previous release.
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> Cheers,
>
> Kenn Hussey
>
> Senior Software Developer
> Rational Software, IBM Software Group
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> 770 Palladium Drive
> Kanata, Ontario, K2V 1C8
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> Hi Kenn,
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> I guess I missed part of this conversation and outcome along the way, but
> how can EODM be using the 2.0 release number if it?s not yet out of
> incubation?  Shouldn?t they both be graduating and releasing a 1.0 version?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
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> On 6/7/07 8:44 AM, "Kenneth Hussey" <khussey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I hereby request approval for the EODM and UML2 Tools components of MDT to
> graduate from incubation to that we be declare 2.0 and 1.0 releases,
> respectively, as part of the upcoming 1.0 release of MDT.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kenn Hussey
>
> Senior Software Developer
> Rational Software, IBM Software Group
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