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Re: [mdt-uml2tools.dev] Model Interchange

Kenn,

Also I think that it would be very helpful to see (at least some of) remaining test cases as soon as possible.
Given that we will have API freeze in a week, and feature freeze in 6 weeks, I would like to be able to find and fix at least severe problems as soon as we can.

Thanks,
Regards,
Michael

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Borlander <borlander@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello,

I have created the diagram. Attached please find, as a separate archives the following:
a) diagram and uml semantic models
b) SVG screenshots (results of the GMF SVG export, has a few problems with line colors etc)
c) actual screenshots as PNG images.

Note that diagram file contains 2 diagrams at once - for the top "testSuite1" package and for an inner "package1" package. Diagram editor will show the "default" top one after reopening. In order to see the inner one, someone may double click on the "package1".

Regarding to your comments:
1) Yes, thats a bug, I have submitted <a href="" href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=268252" target="_blank">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=268252">Bug #268252</a> for that. If you have any ideas about UI for this selection, please provide comment there.
2) There are actually 2 ways to set the attribute type to UML::Boolean or UML::String.
First, someone can add the element import into the diagram header (see screenshots) and then just type "attribute1:String" in the property inplace.
Second, someone can select the attribute and use U2T specifc JDT-like selector dialog invoked from the property sheet (for property type).
3) Yes, that is a probably a missed feature, also I belive that specification does not require this.
4) Yes, there are no ways to run save/export for diagram semantic model from the diagram editor. Personally I don't know how to do that from UML2 tree-editor as well. I believe that this kind of functionality is related rather to UML2 component then to U2T. If this already implemented in UML2, (I think so, but not sure), we easily can and will provide a UI for invoking that from diagram view.
5) Yes, right now there are no ways to block images. In fact, we have recently added images for inner elements inside list compartments (<a href="" href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265764" target="_blank">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265764">bug #265764</a>). In this scr I have already mentioned that :
<quote>
Probably we can provide an additional way to switch some/all labels off via
preferences, but it would be a scope of different request.
</quote>
but right now it is not planned, at least for M6. If you have any suggestions on that, please don't hesitate to bugzilla it.
6) Yes, there are no ways to make associations black. However, in the whole chapter 7.3.3 Associations (2007-02-03 OMG Superstructure spec) I can't find single word "black", and personally I believe that blue color a) is convenient, at least for Borland user base b) allows easily visually distinguish associations from other possible kind of links at ClassD.

Regards,
Michael



On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Kenn Hussey <Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks, Michael. I'm happy hear that you are interested in this initiative.

In anticipation of your interest, I've already tried the first test case (diagram image attached) using UML2 Tools (0.9 M5) and have run into the following stumbling blocks:

1. It's not possible to specify the type of the root element that's created for a new class diagram (the test case uses Model).
2. I couldn't find a way to set the type of an attribute to UML::Boolean or UML::String.
3. I couldn't find a way to show the qualified names in the class shapes.
4. I couldn't find a way to save/export the semantic elements as "standard" UML 2.1.1 XMI.
5. I couldn't find a way to hide the icons in the shapes (minor).
6. I couldn't find a way to make the associations black instead of blue (minor).

Let me know whether you'd like me to open bugs for these. Given the progress of the working group (and the kinds of problems we've already encountered, even with the most popular/successful tools), I doubt we'll get as far as sequence diagrams (let alone more complex class diagrams) before the Galileo release. ;)

Cheers,

Kenn Hussey
Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions

Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. | www.embarcadero.com 
82 Peter Street, Second Floor | Toronto, ON  M5V 2G5
Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Office: 416-593-1585 x9296 Mobile: 613-301-9105


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Golubev [mailto:Michael.Golubev@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:01 PM
To: MDT UML2 Tools mailing list
Cc: Richard Gronback; Kenn Hussey
Subject: RE: [mdt-uml2tools.dev] Model Interchange

Hello,

We are definitely interested in the 1) and I am certainly going to participate in this.

To be honest we are interested in 2) also, but right now UML2Tools has no actual code that may support importing of the diagram information from any other tool. But as we don't have any objections to write importing components in future, we definitely would like to at least try to participate in part 2) as well.

We will consider all issues that will be (I am sure on this) found under this activity as a high priority issues.

Finally, for some kind of elements (especially at SequenceD that will be delivered in U2T before API-freeze in M6), it would very convenient to have 'canonical' semantic models because there are a lot of possible ways to represent some diagram notions in semantic models.

Regards,
Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: mdt-uml2tools.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Kenn Hussey
Sent: Wed 3/11/2009 8:32 PM
To: MDT UML2 Tools mailing list; Papyrus Project list
Cc: MDT UML2 mailing list
Subject: [mdt-uml2tools.dev] Model Interchange

Teams,



There is an initiative underway at the OMG to try to successfully demonstrate interchange between different products/tools that support UML modeling. To date, I have been involved the working group that is pursuing this, by helping prepare test cases. The basic idea is that, for each test case, a reference diagram and XMI serialization are provided (so far by me) and each participating vendor/tool is to 1) attempt to create the diagram from scratch using their tool and save/export the corresponding XMI and 2) attempt to open/import the XMI produced by the other vendors/tools and report on the results.



I think it should be important to us that tools based on the reference open source implementation of UML (like UML2 Tools and Papyrus) participate in this initiative. I would be happy to represent you in this initiative, but first I would need an _expression_ of interest from you (e.g. from your component/project lead) and a general commitment to fixing any issues that are identified. What do you think?



Please let me know if you have any questions and/or concerns.



Thanks,



Kenn Hussey
Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions

 <http://www.embarcadero.com/>

Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. | www.embarcadero.com <http://www.embarcadero.com/>
82 Peter Street, Second Floor | Toronto, ON  M5V 2G5 Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Office: 416-593-1585 x9296 Mobile: 613-301-9105





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