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Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Question regarding numeric types

Hi Axel

Interesting observation.

Pedantically, OCL 2.0, 2.2, 2.3 has no explicit numeric equality semantics.
Just: 

"OCLAny
=(object2 : OclAny) : Boolean
True if self is the same object as object2. Infix operator.
post: result = (self = object2)"

which does not require that this 3 is equal to that 3.

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IMVHO OCL is primarily a specification language and so should be highly
implementation-independent; although I'm not convinced that million-digit
precision is totally necessary or practical for division.

OCL should support libraries so migration should be an issue.

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OCL cannot just adopt Java semantics because Java has three different
semantics for two different equalities

value-semantics: int 3 == double 3.0
object-semantics: Integer 3 != Double 3.0, and this Integer 3 != that
Integer 3
object-value-semantics: Integer 3 !.equals Double 3.0, but this Integer 3
.equals that Integer 3

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OCL does have Integer to Real conformance which strongly suggests that if

this Real 3 = that Real 3, then this Real = that Integer 3

I think that anything other than value-semantics for OCL numerics is almost
untenable.

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The EMF anomally is embarrassing, but can be worked around by ensuring
the the EMF UniqueEList is assessed for OCL uniqueness when creating a
corresponding SetValue. This should lead to no inconsistency, any access
within OCL should see the collapsed collection.

In order to be more EMF-friendly, the EMF OCL Standard Library which must
anyway
define the mapping of Etypes to OCL primitives can define its own variant
equality
semantics.

NB. With a modelled library, equality is defined by the library not by OCL.

[I haven't got the code to hand, but I suspect that SetValue is already
collapsing a collection, using polymorphic Value equality, which is
currently
built-in. It's one of a number of areas that can be more model driven.] 

	Regards

		Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mdt-ocl.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:mdt-ocl.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Axel Uhl
> Sent: 18 April 2011 13:09
> To: MDT OCL mailing list
> Subject: [mdt-ocl.dev] Question regarding numeric types
> 
> Ed, all,
> 
> I'm wondering how OCL semantics for numeric types interferes 
> with Java's 
> definition. We had this discussion before. But here's a 
> thought that I 
> think hasn't been brought forward yet.
> 
> If we integrate OCL with Ecore/EMF then on the EMF side there are 
> collection types and their constraints, derived from the Ecore 
> multiplicity settings. For example, there is UniqueEList. It's 
> add/contains is based on regular Java equality.
> 
> With this, an EObject many-feature that is modeled as unique 
> can easily 
> hold EDoubleObject and EIntegerObject values that are not equal 
> according to Java semantics but will be equal according to 
> standard OCL 
> semantics. If an OCL PropertyCallExp accesses such a feature, an 
> inconsistent OCL collection will result, inconsistent in one 
> of two ways:
> 
>   - if OCL chooses to collapse values equal to each other 
> according to 
> OCL semantics, the property's cardinality will differ from the EMF 
> feature's cardinality
> 
>   - if OCL leaves the values distinct according to Java semantics in 
> place, the collection is inconsistent from OCL's point of 
> view because 
> it should be unique but has two distinct values equal 
> according to OCL 
> semantics.
> 
>  From an EMF/Ecore perspective, the most pragmatic way out of this 
> dilemma seems to be to alter OCL semantics such that they comply with 
> Java semantics. In particular, this would make 3.0 <> 3 which 
> might come 
> as a shock to the OCL purist but would probably be fairly 
> intuitive to 
> Java/EMF/Ecore consumers.
> 
> The implications, of course, are horrible in another sense. OCL 
> expressions would not be entirely portable across 
> environments. But: is 
> this a dominant use case? What would it look like? How would I obtain 
> and re-use a significant body of OCL-implemented libraries in 
> a platform 
> context different from the one where it was developed?
> 
> Best,
> -- Axel
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