Re: [m2e-dev] [m2e-users] moving m2e to java7 past kepler sr0

[Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen@xxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message -----
> I totally agree with the change to Java7. just because when using Java7
> you can still produce binaries to the target system in Java6 (if were
> required).

If the binaries can run on Java 6 then that is all fine - but I read the 
request that Java 7 would be required to run.

> People that don't want to change and use new features that only can be
> provided by new Java version should stay with the old version. The same
> will happen for teams that would like to use new Jetty 9 and its news
> features.

Jetty 8 and 9 can coexist in eclipse - m2e old version and new cannot.

Very different things. 

> Most people that I know and use Mac is moving to Java7 due the security
> issues reported with Java6. Btw, Mountain Lion didn't come with Java and
> to install one you should use Java 7.

Most people I know are also on Java 7, but that is not the users that there are the most of.

This is called observer bias and something to be vary aware of and why we 
collect actual user data instead of looking at the people we actually meet in our day to day
work which tend to be years ahead of the main user adoption.

/max



> 
> On 30/05/13 07:00, Martin Lippert wrote:
> > Hey!
> >
> > Thanks, Max, for the heads-up here.
> >
> > Yes, I can confirm very similar numbers from both the Spring Tool
> > Suite and the Groovy/Grails Tool Suite. We have about 55% running on
> > Java6. This number is even a bit higher on Mac (about 60%).
> >
> > I also share the motivation for moving to Java7, but it would cut off
> > something between 50% and 60% of our users (roughly speaking). So
> > please don't exclude them from new m2e versions that soon...!!! :-)
> >
> > Thanks!!!
> > -Martin
> >
> >
> >
> > On 30.05.13 11:51, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> >> I've pinged Martin Lippert from STS who confirmed similar numbers but
> >> he'll follow on this thread with the exact numbers.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> I'd like to propose moving m2e to require java7 execution environment
> >>> after Kepler SR0 is out. I am getting really addicted to
> >>> try-with-resources syntax [1], and with java6 past it's eol [2]
> >>> already,
> >>> I see little/no reasons to stick with this version any longer.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have a good reasons to stay with java 6 past this coming
> >>> June? ("my IT department is too retarded to allow java7" is probably
> >>> not
> >>> a good reason).
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/essential/exceptions/tryResourceClose.html
> >>>
> >>> [2] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Igor
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-- 
/max