BTW, the video is amazing! I recommend everyone to watch it, it's only 7min long.
Thanks Jim both for the video link and for casting your vote!
/A
I voted no. See
https://dzone.com/articles/when-will-java-11-replace-java-8-as-the-default-jafor
some motivation.
But really OSLC is providing software that enables integration. eclipse/Lyo can be seen as an integration service provider. So we shouldn't push upgrades like JDK 11 until our demand-side clients
at least start asking for it. Our focus should be on the integrations that OSLC enables, not on optimization of their various parts.
You may find this enlightening as it also informs my systems thinking:
https://dms.licdn.com/playback/C5605AQF6buoNgt4New/ebd3bdcf15484e02876ba99c48d8d4f2/feedshare-mp4_3300-captions-thumbnails/1507940147251-drlcss?e=1549479600&v=beta&t=8Hcig932ccryLnsKuK-8QH_-oc-Fo4ZSxIgXpz08YVA
But its also possible that this poll will prove me wrong and identify demand for JDK 11 that we weren't otherwise aware of.
Jim Amsden, Senior Technical Staff Member
OSLC and Linked Lifecycle Data
919-525-6575
From: Andrii Berezovskyi <andriib@xxxxxx>
To: Lyo project developer discussions <lyo-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/04/2019 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [lyo-dev] JDK 11+ support?
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Here you go: https://forum.open-services.net/t/lyo-4-0-jdk11-support/199
On 2019-02-04 , at 14:23, Jim Amsden <jamsden@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Our biggest issue will be the ability of eclipse/lyo users to consume JDK 11 jar files. If all their client apps and servlet containers need to update, this could be a significant burden to future
adoption.
Since OSLC is an integration framework, we will need to follow the lead from the users of OSLC4J and their adoption and migration rate to JDK 11.
Perhaps we should establish a Doodle poll through this mailing list and open-services.netto
see what the OSLC4J users want us to do.
Jim Amsden, Senior Technical Staff Member
OSLC and Linked Lifecycle Data
919-525-6575
From: Andrii Berezovskyi <andriib@xxxxxx>
To: Lyo project developer discussions <lyo-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/03/2019 11:57 AM
Subject: [lyo-dev] JDK 11+ support?
Sent by: lyo-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
Hello,
During the Lyo 4.0+ roadmap call, there was little interest in moving away from JDK 8. However, not many of you might know that JDK 8 is not supported any more since Jan 2019 and it might be legally questionable to download JDK 8 updates after that from Oracle
if you use it commercially. Read more on this in https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/end-of-public-updates-is-a-process%2c-not-an-eventand
https://medium.com/@javachampions/java-is-still-free-c02aef8c9e04and
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danwoods/2019/01/31/oracles-newest-audit-tactic-focusing-on-java/#fc0556854960
So, I am thinking if we shall either start testing Lyo against non-Oracle JDK 8 and/or start supporting JDK 11+? At KTH, we are not using JDK-based apps commercially. The question is: is anyone concerned enough about this to help us with JDK 11+ support? E.g.
by fixing https://github.com/eclipse/lyo.server/issues/26and
similar things?
Also, from the technical perspective, we need JDK 9+ to effectively support TLS/SSL because JDK 8 and before do not trust
https://letsencrypt.org/stats/, the most popular
issuer of the certs in the world. Then, PCI requires TLS1.1+ for compliance (https://blog.pcisecuritystandards.org/are-you-ready-for-30-june-2018-sayin-goodbye-to-ssl-early-tls)
but I think it's only a matter of time till we need support for TLS 1.3 and HTTP2:
https://thejournal.com/articles/2018/09/27/jdk-11-adds-support-for-tls-1.3-and-http2.aspx
I think two main environments for Lyo-based apps are Eclipse & Jetty and they both got JDK 11 covered:
https://www.eclipse.org/eclipseide/and
https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jetty-announce/msg00124.html
Looking forward to your replies. If everyone is happy with JDK 8, let's stay on it.
/Andrew
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