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Re: [kura-dev] [iot-pmc] Kura requests a works-with for OpenJDK Device I/O

Hi,

Sorry for the late reply. To address the two issues:

1. We will not be shipping the Device IO APIs with Kura. We will simply import packages provided by the exports of the Device IO library. We will likely be looking to contribute an OSGi friendly bundle back to the OpenJDK community at some point, but I believe they are still trying to work out the API layer themselves.
2, Kura will function without the Device IO library. This would simply be an additional feature similar to the Web UI.

Thanks,
—Dave

On Oct 16, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Benjamin Cabé <benjamin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jens,
I think Julien's point was simply that Kura's team might not be following this list…

Kura team, could you please confirm that Kura will not be shipping the Device IO API (unless it's part of OpenJDK already, in that case it would be covered by the general exempt pre-req of JRE/JDKs – but I don't think it is in OpenJDK yet, correct?).
As for the pre-req, I thought it was pretty clear in my original e-mail, but I'm sure the Kura team can also confirm that Kura doesn't need GPIO support and the like to be a fully functional IoT framework :-)

Benjamin.



De : Jens Reimann <jens.reimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Société : IBH SYSTEMS GmbH
Répondre à : PMC list for IoT top level project <iot-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date : Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:08:15 +0200
À : <iot-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Objet : Re: [iot-pmc] Kura requests a works-with for OpenJDK Device I/O

Hi,

well the discussion should be made in public in order to find out if it is a workswith or pre-requiste dependency.

The would like to have a works-with dependency but up to now I see no statement that says that the software will work without the dependency. Which is, as far as I understood it, a requirement for a works-with dependency [1].

So if Kura would not start up due to a missing DIO dependency, then this would be a pre-requisite dependency instead.

Jens

[1] https://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/Eclipse_Policy_and_Procedure_for_3rd_Party_Dependencies_Final.pdf

On 10/16/2014 04:00 PM, Julien Vermillard wrote:
Hi
I think it would be better to discuss the details on the ticket or kura-dev mailing list?
Because for me it was clear they go "works-with" dependency due to the GPLv2 licence.


On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Jens Reimann <jens.reimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So depending of the fact that Kura works without the dio package or not it would be either a workswith or a pre-requisite dependency.


On 10/16/2014 03:53 PM, Kai Kreuzer wrote:
This is imho not any different than a dependency on a specific JDK package - after all, afaik the dio api is supposed to be part of JavaSE some when in future.
So imho this is clearly a +1.

Regards,
Kai


Am 16 Oct 2014 um 12:09 schrieb Jens Reimann <jens.reimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

I really like the idea of using Device I/O.

So the neither the API nor the implementation (of OpenJDK) will be distributed by Kura from Eclipse? And the downloaded version works out of the box without adding Device I/O. But if it present, it will make use of it? And Is that right?

Jens

On 10/16/2014 11:52 AM, Benjamin Cabé wrote:
Kura requests a works-with for the Device I/O API implementation provided by OpenJDK. Kura has withdrawn the CQ for Pi4J API and plans to use Device I/O instead for GPIO functionality, as well as serial communications as an alternative to RxTx.

+1 from me – it is a no-brainer to base Kura on top of standard Java APIs, and this is clearly a works-with since Kura can work without I/O support.



Benjamin –



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