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Thanks Mickael & Marc,
I haven't decided on which workflow engine to use. So will look into Bonita, only issue I will have will be with it's license (will have
to look more into LGPL but I don't want to use GPL.).
I liked what Mickael suggested and will research that bit more, based on his comment. I think I won't mind coding something
along his suggestion and make it available. I think I would need some help from JWT team to help me get started, will post
what information I need this weekend.
Regards,
M3
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Today's Topics:
1. exporting and feeding to own workflow engine. (Muasir Khalil)
2. Re: exporting and feeding to own workflow engine. (Mickael Istria)
3. Re: exporting and feeding to own workflow engine. (Marc Dutoo)
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:48:41 -0500
From: Muasir Khalil <muasir@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jwt-dev] exporting and feeding to own workflow engine.
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Hi,
I am trying to find documents on how to feed the generated workflow into my
own engine code. Is there any documentation on
how to make myself a plugin like agilpro so the workflow feeds into my own
flow runner. Here is what I am trying to do, a user
creates their workflow in JWT and feeds that into my engine (intially I
wanted a simple plug-able engine and later move to BPEL).
And then orchestrate the flow from the flow engine.
If there is no document available, then I wont mind helping write the
document if somebody points me to the right direction on
what needs to be done. Thanks
Regards,
M3
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:19:04 +0100
From: Mickael Istria <mickael.istria@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [jwt-dev] exporting and feeding to own workflow engine.
To: Java Workflow Toolbox <jwt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hello Muasir,
According to your description, I imagine you are waiting for an
extension point where you can plug some code responsible of deploying on
your workflow engine, and then JWT would provide all integration with
JWT Workflow Editor. Let's call it the "one-click-deploy"
This is a indeed a very useful feature, but unfortunately, there is
currently nothing to do that currently in JWT. However, here are some
ideas that may help you:
* take a look at the integration with the AgilPro simulator into the JWT
Workflow Editor code. I think that your requirement consists in
abstracting this piece of code, replace it by an extension point and
improve UI to let user choose which workflow engine it targets. I
imagine this is not very difficult to do, but I don't think that anyone
from the JWT team will find time to write it soon... Then if you work on
it, feel free to come back with some feedback, ideas, or code ;)
* Take a look at the "external action" extension point and its
extensions. It is a generic place to add a custom action to JWT. More
doc about available extension points can be found on wiki [1]
What do you think about that?
HTH
Regards,
Mickael
[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/JWT_Extensions#Adding_Actions_to_Menu.2FToolbar
Muasir Khalil a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to find documents on how to feed the generated workflow
> into my own engine code. Is there any documentation on
> how to make myself a plugin like agilpro so the workflow feeds into my
> own flow runner. Here is what I am trying to do, a user
> creates their workflow in JWT and feeds that into my engine (intially
> I wanted a simple plug-able engine and later move to BPEL).
> And then orchestrate the flow from the flow engine.
>
> If there is no document available, then I wont mind helping write the
> document if somebody points me to the right direction on
> what needs to be done. Thanks
>
> Regards,
> M3
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:38:40 +0100
From: Marc Dutoo <marc.dutoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [jwt-dev] exporting and feeding to own workflow engine.
To: Java Workflow Toolbox <jwt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <49CA7A30.5050505@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi Muasir
Other approaches :
What's your engine ?
Is it compatible with any executable process language ? If yes, you can
use the right JWT Transformation to this format (ex. XPDL), or code it
as a plugin if it doesn't exist yet. There you could even call your
engine's remote deployment apis to get "one click deploy" as Mickaël says.
If you don't have any engine yet, consider OW2 Nova Bonita and its OW2
Scarbo SOA-ready integration which are well-integrated with JWT.
Beyond "one click deploy", what are the process engine control features
or user interface you'd need in Eclipse ?
Regards,
Marc
Mickael Istria a écrit :
> Hello Muasir,
>
> According to your description, I imagine you are waiting for an
> extension point where you can plug some code responsible of deploying
> on your workflow engine, and then JWT would provide all integration
> with JWT Workflow Editor. Let's call it the "one-click-deploy"
> This is a indeed a very useful feature, but unfortunately, there is
> currently nothing to do that currently in JWT. However, here are some
> ideas that may help you:
> * take a look at the integration with the AgilPro simulator into the
> JWT Workflow Editor code. I think that your requirement consists in
> abstracting this piece of code, replace it by an extension point and
> improve UI to let user choose which workflow engine it targets. I
> imagine this is not very difficult to do, but I don't think that
> anyone from the JWT team will find time to write it soon... Then if
> you work on it, feel free to come back with some feedback, ideas, or
> code ;)
> * Take a look at the "external action" extension point and its
> extensions. It is a generic place to add a custom action to JWT. More
> doc about available extension points can be found on wiki [1]
>
> What do you think about that?
> HTH
>
> Regards,
> Mickael
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/JWT_Extensions#Adding_Actions_to_Menu.2FToolbar
>
>
> Muasir Khalil a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am trying to find documents on how to feed the generated workflow
>> into my own engine code. Is there any documentation on
>> how to make myself a plugin like agilpro so the workflow feeds into
>> my own flow runner. Here is what I am trying to do, a user
>> creates their workflow in JWT and feeds that into my engine (intially
>> I wanted a simple plug-able engine and later move to BPEL). And then
>> orchestrate the flow from the flow engine.
>>
>> If there is no document available, then I wont mind helping write the
>> document if somebody points me to the right direction on
>> what needs to be done. Thanks
>>
>> Regards,
>> M3
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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>> jwt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
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