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Hi Marc, 

>>On another topic, Open World Forum yesterday in Paris was my last event in
a while - went very well btw, took some photos of Miguel talking about
Bonita Designer on JWT, Gaël of PEtALS fame took some of mine talking about
SOA and BPM ^^

I'm happy to hear that. Hopefully the OpenWorldForum as well as the ICT
event has been a success? I'm looking forward to your pictures! Where can I
find them? ;-)

Best regards,

Florian


Florian Lautenbacher a écrit :
> Hi Marc,
>
> I agree with you that it would be good practice to extend an existing 
> plugin with other things which are optional instead of giving a 
> possibility to hide or disable existing functions.
>
> Therefore, it could also make sense to have a minimal metamodel (only 
> the basic constructs that are needed by everybody) and source out all 
> additional current metamodel elements as well as preferences, overview 
> page, views and other features out into separate plugins. Then nothing 
> needs to be disabled anymore.
>
> But for this to become reality the aspects and profiles need to work 
> completely fine and I guess this will take some more time (maybe too 
> much time for the first vendors to build upon JWT in their next release).
BTW:
> what's the current status here?
>
> Many things are currently hard-wired into our workflow editor and 
> would require to create additional extension points and a lot of time 
> to separate things out again. So for the time being I thought it would 
> be a good idea to give vendors the possibility e.g. to disable the 
> overview page (as they
> requested) in order to adapt JWT to their needs.
>
> But we can also discuss this topic (which is somehow connected to the 
> feature request "Source out the metamodel") on bugzilla.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Florian
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Im Auftrag von Marc Dutoo
> Gesendet: 02 December 2008 15:56
> An: Java Workflow Toolbox
> Betreff: [jwt-dev] Good dev practices : About allowing to disable 
> JWTdefault features
>
> Hi all
>
> Since we're geared more towards making JWT flexible enough for vendors 
> to extend it, the question of disabling default JWT features has 
> appeared several times.
>
> Ex. :
> [Bug 257195] Disable overview page
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=257195
> [Bug 256134] make original views deactivatable
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=256134
>
> Here are a few thoughts about how best to do it.
>
>
> 1. The right question is not about "disabling" but rather about 
> "making optional". Likewise the solution is not to create an extension 
> point that disables it, but to create an extension point that allows 
> to externalize the default code in an optional plugin. Moreover if 
> there already exist a similar extension point, it should be reused so 
> as to unify and make consistent the whole architecture.
>
> 2. Required flexibility can be introduced at several architectural 
> levels that use various technical solutions. Common architectural levels
are :
>    * plugin level, using extension points ; typically gives 
> flexibility to the vendor, so he can choose a plugin feature to be 
> part of its release or not.
>    * application level, using preference entry ; gives flexibility to 
> the user, so he can customize its use of JWT.
>    * NB. An intermediary level between both could be externalized 
> properties.
>
> 3. A single feature may be made flexible at both levels if such 
> flexibility is useful 1. for the vendor at packaging time and 2. for 
> the user at use time. For instance, profile / aspect configuration 
> files can be both plugged in using an extension point (requires the 
> vendor to package it as a plugin) or / and put in a directory where it 
> is autodiscovered at startup (or specified in a preference page, but 
> this has not been done yet). However, the UI pertaining to such 
> flexibility through plugin is any kind of release-making tool and not 
> the PreferencePage UI (which in turn is the rather user-oriented
configuration UI) !
>
> 4. I'm wondering whether there is some common patterns or code about 
> all this to be shared / gathered in a framework... Thoughts ?
>
> Regards,
> Marc
>
>
>
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