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[jwt-dev] Re: Eclipse STP and Business Processes
- From: Marc Dutoo <marc.dutoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:34:15 +0200
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We feel the same way here about collaboration between JWT and STP
projects, including about sharing some parts or contributing or
extending others in order not to do twice the same work on either side.
We'd be ok with a conference call between the middle and end of August.
Here we could describe the existing parts of JWT and the specifications
of the others, while the other parts could do the same for theirs. A
good thing would be to prepare all together the topics in advance by
email, so it may also include for example technical questions that may
make the discussion go forward.
We're looking forward to your answer.
Oisin Hurley a écrit :
Well, I have just come back from holidays myself! So sorry for *my*
Indeed, we've discussed it and we all agree there is room for such
collaboration, since our goals are compatible : at JWT, we aim our
tooling suite to first and foremost help solve the problem of the
multiplicity of BPM formats and representations.
More precisely, here at Open Wide we're currently reviewing an array
of options in order to add to our current solution additional BPM
format mappings (like XPDL, BPEL) and representation (like BPMN or a
subset). Our choices and their architecture will be done before the
summer ends (actually it is in synch with the timeline of the friend
SCOrWare project), once scheduled studies will have been finished, and
will be implemented starting then. We've already got resources and
funding for these goals.
For example, we've taken a look at the STP BPMN project, and it would
be stupid not to include it among our options. However, since we aim
at having a complete solution, it isn't the only parameter, meaning
the runtime features will still depends on how its produced BPMN is
mapped to an execution language and on a chosen engine's features.
On our side, we'd like to have better knowledge of the BPMN to BPEL
generation capabilities within STP. Integration with BPEL2Java though
isn't likely to be an option, since we focus on a runtime model rather
than a code generation paradigm.
What JWT currently provides : a complete workflow solution including a
EMF / GEF based modeler and a jBPM based simulator. Well, beyond this
bare depiction, there is a lot more, including Bull's work on XPDL and
our interest for jBoss and Bull's recent Process Virtual Machine
So for more details I think a conference call will be in order :)
Wow - that's a lot of material, Marc, I think we should definitely think
conference call! I do know that there are a number of other
are very interested the BPMN modeler, having XPDL and jBPM tools, etc,
and I would be very keen to get all of you together to talk about what
are going on and how we could pool knowledge and attempt to minimize
duplication. Would you be interested? If we have enough material, and I
think we might, we could think about hosting a face to face.
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