Attendees:
Fujitsu:
Kenji Kazumura, Mike Denicola
IBM: Dan Bandera
Oracle: Will Lyons
Payara: Steve Millidge
Red Hat: Mark Little
Tomitribe: David Blevins, Richard Monson-Hafael
Martijn Verburg:
Ivar Grimstad:
Eclipse: Mike Milinkovich
Review of Minutes from Prior Meeting
Minutes
of Sept 11 meeting were approved.
Budget Update
1)
The following resolution was approved
RESOLVED, the 2019 Jakarta EE
Working Group budget is approved as presented.
The
next step is to confirm the program plan. Paul will
distribute an updated plan for initial review next week.
Changes to the charter reflecting the fees will be published
to the Jakarta EE WG Charter this week.
Mike intends to publish a Jakarta EE update blog.
Oracle noted it will also be blogging on GF contributions.
A participation agreement will be drafted and distributed to
WG members
2) Kenji raised a question
in email which we should attempt to address in the near
future: Are there
any differences about using Jakarta EE branding between
Strategic member and Enterprise/Participant member ?
Will
discuss in future meeting - Paul will draft a plan for using
the brand.
Working Group Calls
Report
on the first meeting Sept 24 11AM - 12PM EDT. From Tanja:
Many thanks everyone who was able to join the
call today. For the Working Group (WG) members who were not
able to attend, please review the meeting recording.
Again, a very special thanks to Dmitry
Kornilov, Ivar Grimstad, Heiko Rupp and Neil Patterson for
providing updates on the various Jakarta EE activities. Many
thanks to Paul While for the help as well.
As
indicated we would love to have these calls on the monthly
bases. While we are not sure we can select time that works for
everyone, we created this Doodle poll
to select the best time for most of us. Please respond and
let me know what time slot would work for you. I have extended
the poll with day / times suggested by Ameila. Note: we are
trying to get your input on the day / time in a week, please
do not focus on the poll dates.
The
call updated the WG on Eclipse GlassFish 5.1, PMC Update,
ECE/Code One plans. Poll for topics in follow-on monthly
calls (see link above):
EclipseCon Europe
Paul
requests we reach out to community members to let them know
about it and encourage attendance
Updates on Oracle contributions
https://www.eclipse.org/ee4j/status.php
Schedule discussed last week:
Sep 21 -- All code required for GF build contributed.
Sep 23 — Eclipse GlassFish builds.
Oct 1 -- Java EE 8 CTS testing. We are able to run CTS
tests on Eclipse GlassFish.
Oct 22 — CI/CD release pipelines completed.
Oct 22 -- Eclipse GlassFish 5.1-RC1 milestone release.
Nov 5 — Dependencies updated. All projects are
released to OSSRH and have dependencies to Eclipse version
of other components.
Nov 30 -- Release Review completed.
Dec 14 -- Eclipse GlassFish 5.1 release. All CTS
tests are passed.
All
GF sources are contributed, going through Eclipse Fpundation
IP Review.
GF builds have begun and Java EE 8 tests have begun
execution.
CI/CD
pipelines status - not much progress since last week.
Changing groupid of API projects – PRs submitted for all
available repositories. Thanks
Guillermo González de Agüero.
Oracle will blog on this topic.
Discuss Building Momentum for Jakarta EE discussed in the
last Steering Committee meeting (excerpts from email content
in italics)
1. Release Eclipse GlassFish and certify it as
Java EE 8 compatible.
Each of the EE4J projects have project leads identified.
Each of the EE4J projects needs to be released and a task in
the project’s issue tracker has been opened to track this
activity. For example, see: https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/servlet-api/issues/195
We would welcome project leads, or other committers, to
take the initiative to:
• Review the release documents and prepare to release
these projects, or recruit and encourage other community
members to do so, and..
• Update the appropriate Jira issues reflecting your
plans
• Let Ed and Dmitry know if you will take on
responsibility for releasing the project in question
Dmitry has created a Google spreadsheet for tracking
progress:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8inaprMOjnq04hU2o76egHhC8AF3-vNvqjRq6GR0eM/edit#gid=0
The activity being tracked above
is less than 10% complete.
Per the schedule noted above, the
current target date for Eclipse GlassFish 5.1 release and Java
EE 8 certification is December 14.
2. Create a roadmap for definition of a
specification process by the end of the year
Ideally we will define public milestones some of which
are achievable by Code One / EclipseCon Europe.
The goal is to have a draft process delivered to Spec
Committee by Thursday and to have a draft process ready for
community review by ECE/OC1.
Draft process distributed and is under review by Spec
Committee. Still tracking to ECE/OC1 goal.
3. Announce commitment to Working Group
funding
Assuming we collectively commit to a funding model, we
should communicate this externally. We expect to make
progress on this topic in the next Steering Committee
meeting.
Mike
will blog on this per above.
4. Demonstrate successful execution of the
contributed TCKs
Progress on this is possible by
Code One/ECE but not likely. Our messaging should not rely on
this.
5. Define distributed ownership of Jakarta EE technology
areas and directions
This is related to
item #1.
6. Commit to Code One/ECE messaging
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_Bgh5rP1qKJdATlQ5ZC-ceJ9AFvHq8lq8_xFrarnlH0/edit
This document has been updated regarding the GlassFish
contribution schedule.
We should add a message regarding funding commitments when
budget is approved.
Need to discuss what can be said about the specification
process.
Regarding setting technical direction, David initiated a
community discussion on Jakarta EE technology directions,
starting with jakarta.ee-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx,
and the PMC list, and leads (David requested list of lead
names) and report back at next Steering Committee meeting.
David had several responses to his mail. Have another 10
days for further replies.
Will discuss further detail on "technical direction" next
week.
Code One/ECE presence
Would
like to discuss in detail next week. Are certain Code One
talks open for "panel" discussion?
Mark
has a panel discussion scheduled. Will capture details of
who will participate next week.
28 Java EE/Jakarta EE sessions at OC1, 15 at ECE.
Legal Documents
Oracle
Legal is working on the TM license agreement. We have
requested a date for a draft.
JakartaOne
Not
enough time to plan/execute for mtg next year. Will target
for Spring 2020 for a physical event. Will target 1-2
virtual events for 2019.
Marketing Committee Update
Requested members post to Amelia's
sheet.
PMC Update
Ongoing discussion on email
templates for Jakarta EE project
Recruitment of new members; Elections
Regarding
additional PMC representation, will address next year when we
do elections again.
Planned Jakarta EE certifications
What
other app servers, besides GlassFish can we expect on Jakarta
EE 8.
Has been confirmed in spec committee.