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Re: [jakarta.ee-wg] Minutes from Jakarta EE Steering Committee Meeting August 21

Now I cannot access the Special Spec Committee Call although I am using the Zoom in Michael’s email about the call.

 

Please tell me how I can join the call.

 

MikeD

 

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Additional Jakarta EE Spec Committee Call

           

           

           

           

When

Wed Sep 12, 2018 1pm 2pm Eastern Time - Toronto

Where

https://eclipse.zoom.us/j/6132203223 (map)

Calendar

jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx

Who

           

           

mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - organizer

jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx


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Hi there,

Mike Milinkovich is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://eclipse.zoom.us/j/6132203223

Or iPhone one-tap :
US: +16699006833,,6132203223# or +16468769923,,6132203223#
Or Telephone:
Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location):
US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 646 876 9923
Meeting ID: 613 220 3223
International numbers available:
https://zoom.us/u/qJYgY

 

 

From: jakarta.ee-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MDeNicola@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:46 AM
To: Jakarta EE Working Group <jakarta.ee-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-wg] Minutes from Jakarta EE Steering Committee Meeting August 21

 

I was unable to log into the Steering Committee call this morning. When I clicked on Zoom I got this message: 

 

“The page you were on is trying to send you to https://eclipse.zoom.us/j/355402799.”

 

When I went there, I was the only one.

 

I then tried the Zoom for the Special Spec Committee call and again was the only one there --- which made sense since that meeting won’t start until an hour after the regular Spec Committee meeting.

 

What is the correct Zoom address for the weekly Spec Committee calls?

 

I suggest that you include the Zoom address every time you send out the Agenda for a meeting. This is not the first time that an EE4J Committee Zoom address has changed.

 

MikeD

 

From: jakarta.ee-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of will.lyons@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:27 AM
To: jakarta.ee-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jakarta.ee-wg] Minutes from Jakarta EE Steering Committee Meeting August 21

 

Minutes from Jakarta EE Steering Committee Meeting August 21

Attendees:
     Fujitsu: Kenji Kazumura, Mike Denicola
     IBM: Dan Bandera
     Oracle: Will Lyons
     Payara: Steve Millidge
     Red Hat: Mark Little
     Tomitribe: David Blevins, Richard Monson-Hafael
     Martijn Verburg
     Ivar Grimstad

     Eclipse: Mike Milinkovich

Review of Minutes from Prior Meeting

The minutes of July 31 Steering Committee meeting and August 2 budget meeting were approved.

Minutes of August 7 meeting will be reviewed next meeting.

Updates on Oracle contribution

We have made significant progress.   Since the Steering Committee last met Oracle has internally approved 34 repositories for contribution to Eclipse; we are in the process of making these contributions now.  

After these contributions are completed, the following are the remaining contributions:

  • Five more repositories with GlassFish RI related code requiring internal Oracle approval.
  • Repositories containing Maven tools and scripts
  • Doc/web-site/other non-GF code (not required to complete Java EE certification)
  • TCKs  

We are actively engaged in completing the TCK license agreement, after which we will move forward on TCK contributions.

We are nearly ready to begin the Eclipse GlassFish build process.   We will gradually update Maven build coordinates from current Oracle references to EE4J.  

To summarize, we have made significant progress recently with Oracle approvals, and this will be manifested soon in many new contributions.   We are approaching the point where Eclipse GlassFish builds can begin.

Budget Meeting Tomorrow

Reviewed plan for budget meeting tomorrow.   Oracle noted it is prepared to make a 3 year funding commitment.


Code One/ECE Messages

At the last meeting it was suggested Oracle propose Jakarta EE messaging.   The following draft messages were proposed for discussion.

    Announcing Eclipse GlassFish. 

GlassFish contributions to Jakarta EE are complete and Eclipse GlassFish is certified as Java EE 8 compatible [adjust statement based on actual level of completion].  We expect Eclipse GlassFish sources will become the basis for implementations of Jakarta EE specifications.

    Java EE TCKs are open sourced. 

The Java EE 8 Technology Compatibility Kits have been contributed and are available in Open Source.   We expect these to be the basis for Jakarta EE 8 compatibility tests for branding of multiple independent implementations of Jakarta EE specifications.

    We [Oracle and other WG members] are committed to Jakarta EE.

We [Oracle and other WG members] remain committed to enabling evolution of the Java EE 8 technologies, including evolution of the javax namespace, in Jakarta EE specifications for cloud native Java.  [Hope to identify specific milestone].   We [Oracle and other WG members] have committed to funding this effort at the Eclipse foundation.

    We [Oracle and other WG members] will leverage Jakarta EE.

We [Oracle and other WG members] intend to leverage Jakarta EE technologies and cloud native Java in its product and service offerings.   [Each WG member may have its own announcement that will...] leverage Jakarta EE and/or Eclipse GlassFish technology, and/or will support Java EE 8, Jakarta EE 8 and evolution of Jakarta EE.

With respect to the final two items listed above, Mark Little stated that he felt these statements were reiterating statements that have already been made some time ago, and that he would like that either:

  • We announce at Code One / ECE that an agreement is in place between Oracle and Eclipse, that enables evolution of the Java EE technologies, including use of the javax namespace for evolution of these technologies, or
  • That we announce a commitment to come to such an agreement by the end of the calendar year.

This would demonstrate progress towards spec process definition.   Both Oracle and Eclipse stated they did not believe the first item above was achievable, based on progress achieved on legal agreements to date.  

Given that, statement Mark offered, as had been offered by IBM in the prior meeting, that Red Hat and IBM would be willing to engage with Oracle management at an executive level to push for such commitment.    Mark said he believes we would need to re-evaluate the initiative if we could not make progress towards that year end goal. 

It was pointed out that significant progress can be made on the specification process independent of the legal issues discussed above.    The example of JNoSQL was cited, where there is no dependency on the legal issues described above.

Will Lyons will consider the Red Hat/IBM offer of escalation and Mike Milinkovich will include discussion of how to make progress on the specification process at the next Spec Committee meeting.


Spec Committee Update

 See comments on Spec Committee actions above.

Marketing Committee Update

August - December Marketing plan distributed by Thabang Mashologu on August 18.
   
Oracle is eager to participate in EclipseCon Europe.  Following up between Eclipse and Oracle.

PMC Update

No significant update for this group.

Recruitment of new members; Elections

Note discussed.

Open issue - will there be an additional PMC representative on the Steering Committee. 

Planned Jakarta EE certifications

Not discussed
    
What other app servers, besides GlassFish can we expect on Jakarta EE 8 - get input from Steering Committee.
         Wildfly - name clarification needed from RedHat ?
         IBM Liberty
         Fujitsu
         Payara - ?
         Weblogic - ?
         TomiTribe - ?

Legal Documents
 Making progress on TCK license agreeement per above.


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