Minutes from Jakarta Steering Committee meeting of June 19
Attendees:
Fujitsu: Kenji Kazamura (present)
IBM: Dan Bandera (present)
Oracle: Ed Bratt (substituting for Will Lyons, and will manage
agenda), both present
Payara: Steve Millidge (present)
Red Hat: Mark Little (sent regrets) Scott Stark was present
Tomitribe: Richard Monson-Haefel (David Blevins, was present)
Eclipse: Mike Milinkovich (sent regrets, designated Paul White
as proxy)
Review of Minutes from Prior Meeting
Review of minutes from the June 5 Steering Committee
meeting.
No further changes were requested.
Dan seconded the motion to approve.
Hearing no objection, minutes of June 5 meeting were
approved as circulated
Administrivia
Paul will extend the meeting invitation through the
end of September.
Please designate delegates/proxies when you know you will
not be available for this meeting.
Marketing Committee Update
The Social Media Policy was distributed on June 6
(distributed to jakarta.ee-marketing.committee).
David Blevins raised concern that Eclipse
Foundation reserves twitter account credentials and that
author access of this social media voice is overly
constrained. David requests consideration of a "technical"
Twitter account voice. Marketing committee agreed that this
could be revisited later in the fall. David asked that some
target metrics be established. Once metrics are captured and
being reported we'd like the Marketing committee to inform
the steering committee that these are available.
Shared folder created for marketing committee materials:
Updates from F2F meeting in France?
Some members had a face to face discussion.
(Post meeting update: Meet-up minutes from
France are available on Marketing Google Drive folder).
Will asked if there were any updates on Marketing
budget? (Confirmed this was a topic, but uncertain if any
specifics were determined).
Spec Committee Update
Update on spec requirements document and readiness for
publishing.
Does this committee recommend this document for
publication? (+1 requested by by Mike)
Opened this discussion by noting there is still debate
about how / when IP rights are transferred (Dan). Dan
would like this to be elaborated more carefully before
initial publication, and would like the opportunity for
IBM legal review.
Scott noted that Eclipse IP advisory committee issues
aren't being folded into this document. Ian raised
concerns that visibility into actions of this committee is
difficult to obtain. Wayne confirmed that minutes are
published. Ian requested that minutes be made available
for review. (Wayne to look after this?)
Steering Committee is not prepared to give +1 yet.
Referred back to the spec committee for further action,
likely on Thursday.
Other updates from Eclipse BOD meeting
David reported that the BoD granted authority for some
enhancements to contributor agreements without further
Board approval.
General discussion of the need to improve coordination of
recommendations on IP flows between Eclipse IP advisory
committee and Jakarta EE Spec committee. For example, Ian
suggested that the Spec. committee must lay out the
objectives. Then, the IP committee should figure out how
to codify this in a written agreement/document. We need
to revisit this topic when Mike is present as he has the
greatest visibility into the work of these groups.
Jakarta One conference was granted general approval for
Mike to move forward. Budgets will need to be created etc.
The request for EPL/EDL dual-licensing for some of the
EE4J projects was approved.
David Blevins asked whether TCK source code contributions
may be delayed due to dependencies on legal agreements.
David wants to deliver more than "Eclipse GlassFish is Java
EE 8 certified" at EclipseCon and OpenWorld and wants to be
able to announce that Eclipse GlassFish is tested against
Eclipse TCKs built from sources contributed to Eclipse. Ed
confirmed that Oracle's goals are still in alignment and
have not changed from the road-map outlined at the April
launch. Oracle will provide additional details for next
week's meeting.
Post meeting clarification from Tom: The
approval for contribution of the TCK Source is on a
similar path as is completion of the TCK binary license
agreement for certification of Java EE 8 compatibility.
Tom does not anticipate receiving approval for
contribution of TCK source code prior to finalization of
the TCK binary license agreement.
Technical Vision Update/PMC
The PMC has published Technical Mission/Vision
document, on the EE4J Web site:
https://www.eclipse.org/ee4j/news/
Unclear if the marketing committee will be promoting this
document.
Status of Oracle Contributions
EE4J Project Bootstrapping: https://www.eclipse.org/ee4j/status.php
The high-level status of EE4J projects (as of midday 6/5) was
as follows (with progress in parentheses)
- 39 project proposals have been
created
- 30 project committers and
resources have been provisioned
- 24 of these projects have
initial contributions provided to the Eclipse IP team
- 18 of these projects have the
initial contribution pushed to the Git Repository
The high-level status of EE4J projects (as of midday 6/18)
was as follows (with progress in parentheses)
- 39 project proposals have been
created (no change)
- 30 project committers and
resources have been provisioned (no change)
- 26 of these projects have
initial contributions provided to the Eclipse IP team (+2)
- 21 of these projects have the
initial contribution pushed to the Git Repository (+3)
Richard noted that Java EE components not owned by Oracle have
not moved forward with respect to possible migration to
Eclipse Foundation. This component list includes: Bean
Validation, Batch, CDI. At this time, Red Hat (CDI and Bean
Validation) does not have a plan to contribute their
components to Eclipse Foundation. No update from other
projects. Wayne would like to hear more discussion / debate
about moving these projects, or not. The specification
process should allow for external projects.
Recruitment of new members; Elections
Elections occurring the week of June 18 (this week).
Paul will send out a public note to this effect, and
connect with nominees.
Paul reported this is underway. Should be completed by
end of month.
Legal Documents
No significant updates from the last meeting
Oracle and Eclipse Foundation met on 6/5 and made
progress on the TCK Agreement.
(No substantive discussion on this topic at the 6/19
meeting)
Budget for 2019
The Eclipse Foundation is requesting commitment to a
multi-year budget by Sept 15. Feedback from participants is
requested.
Steering committee would like to handle budget
proposal first on the agenda, next week. Marketing budget
is the biggest single component.
Will would like this broken down further. (post meeting
update: Marketing committee is working on this and line-item
detail is evolving. They hope to deliver a review copy with
a target for week of July 10.
David Blevins would like GlassFish evolution and maintenance
handled/itemized separately. This discussion was tabled due
to lack of adequate time for proper consideration.
Other Business
Is the process for posting Steering Committee minutes
publicly at the Jakarta EE Working Group web site in place?
Wayne (or Paul) report that Eclipse is working on this, but
it is not yet ready -- Suggested we ask again at the July 10
meeting.
Reminder - The July 3 (two weeks) Steering Committee
meeting is cancelled.
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