Re: [imp-dev] Integrating with existing Eclipse-based IDEs - what can IM

[Stan Sutton <suttons@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Clemens,

I don't have a very clear picture of
what you're trying to do.  As Jin suggests, IMP, DLTK, and EPIC are
different kinds of tools or platforms and have different positions with
regard to language support (representation, tooling, runtime/debug).

Can you say more about what your third
API is and what the integration is supposed to achieve?  

I haven't worked on org.eclipse.imp.analysis
or made use of it.  It should help you in implementing AST-based analyses.
 I can't comment on its readiness for use, though.

More broadly, IMP is not an IDE but
is metatooling mainly to facilitate the development of IDE services or
features.  Many of these are oriented around the editor but some are
not.  The IDE developer must provide basic parsing services and an
AST representation.  The IMP runtime for editing and other services
generally rely on these.  Strictly speaking, the language tooling
and AST representation are not part of or provided by IMP, although IMP
does come "bundled" with the LPG parser generator which can be
used to generate a parser and AST representation.  Other approaches
to parsing/AST support can also be accommodated.

Given an implementation of the parsing
services and AST representation, IMP provides leverage for development
of IDE services.  The image below gives an indication of services
currently addressed (this is the IMP contribution to the Eclipse "New"
menu).  It's not clear if any of these would be helpful for your purposes.
 However, even if they don't address your main focus you may still
find some of them nice to have.

If you can clarify your use case (or
the problem that you're trying to solve) that would enable us to give you
a better answer.  Otherwise, we might ask, what do you want IMP to
do for you?

Regards,

Stan

Stan Sutton, Ph. D.
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Jin Mingjian <jin.phd@xxxxxxxxx>
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Very possible. But the use cases for using both DLTK
and IMP seem not
existed now. But some codes should be provided in the exmaple
project.(check svn)

regards,
Jin

2009/4/15 Clemens Anhuth <clemens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Hello everyone.
>
> I am working on integrating (code assist, run, debug) with EPIC and
DLTK
> (and possibly any other Eclipse-based IDE) for a third API available
in four
> script languages (Perl, Tcl, Python, _javascript_).
>
> (The desired approach is not to modify EPIC or DLTK implementations,
but
> rather to add to them by way of extension points for example, so that
the
> integration can be used in conjunction with the original (EPIC, DLTK,
etc.)
> project.)
>
> I have tried to find out what IMP can do for me, and it seems that
> org.eclipse.imp.analysis can be used to implement code analysis, possibly
> more advanced code analysis than provided by the aforementioned IDEs
in
> their current state. Is it a realistic to use org.eclipse.imp.analysis
for
> implementing AST-based analyses in my case?
>
> Is there anything else that IMP can do for me, given the above use
case?
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance for your feedback.
>
>
>
> With best regards
>
> Clemens Anhuth
>
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