Re: [ide-dev] [ui-best-practices-working-group] Blog Comments

[Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> There was a smiley.

:-)

> Anyway, never mind, carry on. :)

I try to give both the IDE and the RCP platform some love. I think
both help each other, if they are good. Nobody would RCP if the IDE is
crappy.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> There was a smiley. For us veteran IDE guys, we weren’t very happy when
> RCP came about and saw how it took attention away from making the Eclipse
> Platform a great IDE platform. It’s ancient history now, but it’s always
> good to have a perspective on the history to help understand why certain
> people think the way they do, e.g. why some people feel there’s a barrier
> to putting IDE functionality in the Platform.
>
> Anyway, never mind, carry on. :)
> D
>
> On 2016-09-19, 11:14 AM, "ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Lars
> Vogel" <ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>>> In fact, people point at e4 being the end. I can make a plausible
>>>argument
>>> that RCP was really the end ;).
>>
>>Not sure how to parse this comment. The e4 API effort is one of the
>>reasons why RCP is still a vital and frequently selected solution for
>>many new customers. 3.x RCP is heavily outdated and I have not met in
>>the last 5 years a customer which started a new project with 3.X API
>>but have supported lots of new 4.x API implementations.
>>
>>Best regards, Lars
>>
>>> Doug.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Best regards, Lars
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Doug Schaefer
>>>><dschaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>
>>>>> In case you missed it on the Planet, I blogged about the discussions
>>>>>we¹ve
>>>>> been having. Comments are starting to come in from Eclipse users.
>>>>>It¹s a
>>>>> great place to connect with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cdtdoug.ca/2016/09/17/pushing-the-eclipse-ide-forward/
>>>>>
>>>>> The one from @jillesvangurp is interesting. He isn¹t noticing much the
>>>>> differences between releases despite all the great effort of the
>>>>>Platform UI
>>>>> team. I think it highlights something I think we all need to realize.
>>>>>At
>>>>> this point, the issues users are facing have much more to do with the
>>>>> language plug-ins than they do with the Platform. Java content assist
>>>>>comes
>>>>> from JDT, Android tooling comes from Andmore, C++ tooling comes from
>>>>>CDT,
>>>>> etc. My sense is that these projects need a lot more love if we really
>>>>>want
>>>>> to make a difference for users.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
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