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Re: [ide-dev] A new survey

Perhaps you could be happy with the magic?  I'm not sure how it's a problem or why it's characterized as magic.  There's not much point in anyone solving problems if the solution at hand is called magic.   Of course you could wait a few more years until there's magically a new scope in the platform and magically all the projects start to use it properly.  It's probably best not hold your breath for that...


On 02/11/2015 10:54 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
The first question that jumps to mind is do I want preferences spanning Eclipse based products, each of which might have different defaults? And I’m not sure some users realize that’s there’s Eclipse underneath a given product and expect the preference to migrate between products. Though I imagine expert users would.

I’d just be happy if preferences worked cross workspaces without needing Oomph magic.

Doug.

From: <ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Marcel Bruch <marcel.bruch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Monday, November 2, 2015 at 4:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [ide-dev] A new survey

What bugs me for a while:

There is a instance, a configuration and a default scope. Why is there no *user scope* which stores preferences like spell checker enablement in the user’s home folder instead into the workspace or eclipse installation folder?

Saving some preferences in user scope instead of the workspace scope will certainly require some changes to the existing UI. But it seems legit to ask why it’s not there...



Am 02.11.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Ed Willink <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Hi

Nearly every tool has asked questions but they steadily vanish into the Custom rather than Standard optiion in the Installer. But options such as 'Desktop Icon' often persust in a final installer page. Even the Java SDK installer stops half way through for an extra irritating confusing question about the JRE location. Open Office has confusing/scary questions about user identity/initials.

Prior to OOMPH, Eclipse has no installer so no location for these defaults/variations. The workspace location dialog is the first place for an option. Perhaps this dialog could offer customizatiion.

    Regards

        Ed Willink


On 02/11/2015 16:03, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Does anyone know of a commercial IDE that would ask questions like this at install time? I can’t remember any but I have only installed the big ones, Visual Studio and Xcode.

Thanks,
Doug.

From: <ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>
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I did not agree to anything. Someone asked whether there are at all negative points when enabling spell-checking and that's what I provided. I like the Oomph questionnaire based approach.

Dani



From:        Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date:        01.11.2015 20:42
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Looks like Dani agrees, so JDT can change its default and the EPP
would not need to change.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=481194

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Since many contributors agree, maybe it's not worth bothering users with
> that, and just open a bug to EPP to ask to apply that change?
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