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Re: [ide-dev] A new survey

That’s a good point Ed. I did a fresh install of Visual Studio the other day and their Getting Started page was beautiful and full of information, including links to videos which is what caught my eye. I could image there being a section for popular preference choices there.

This is something we did for BlackBerry Momentics, created a web page that got loaded up into a Browser “editor” page on initial start. It was a hack but very useful. I need to look at the implementation of the Eclipse Welcome page and see if we could do something similar there.

Doug.

From: <ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Monday, November 2, 2015 at 10:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [ide-dev] A new survey

It certainly shouldn't happen at install time; on first use would make more sense.  There is the welcome page that comes up, and it's effectively useless.   Who doesn't instantly look for the X button on that?  Perhaps it would be more helpful if the welcome page was more focused on making users aware of some of the key ways they can tailor the IDE to be more the way they personally want it, with a focus on the most contentious preferences where literally 50% of the people hate it one way and the other 50% hate it the other way.   Failing that, there will always be yet another cycle of "what should be the default value for preference Xyz" with Xyz being just the latest one that came to someone's mind...


On 02/11/2015 4:03 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Does anyone know of a commercial IDE that would ask questions like this at install time? I can’t remember any but I have only installed the big ones, Visual Studio and Xcode.

Thanks,
Doug.

From: <ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Monday, November 2, 2015 at 2:59 AM
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I did not agree to anything. Someone asked whether there are at all negative points when enabling spell-checking and that's what I provided. I like the Oomph questionnaire based approach.

Dani



From:        Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date:        01.11.2015 20:42
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Looks like Dani agrees, so JDT can change its default and the EPP
would not need to change.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=481194

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Since many contributors agree, maybe it's not worth bothering users with
> that, and just open a bug to EPP to ask to apply that change?
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