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Re: [ide-dev] Yet another article advising to leave Eclispe
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Hi All,
I am a big fan of eclipse. I have never used NetBeans, but I am currently using PyCharms
(the python IDE of the intellij).
Half a year ago, I blogged a bit about my experience:
"Evolution: form Emacs to Eclipse to IntelliJ and back to Emacs?"
http://michaelscharf.blogspot.de/2014/03/evolution-form-emacs-to-eclipse-to.html
For mixed language projects the JetBrains (IntelliJ) solutions simply work
with much less friction than eclipse.
- not endless fight to install and hunt plug-ins: if it detects unknown
files, it asks you to instal the plug-in...
- Till now, I never had to kill the process because it hung (happens
pretty often with eclipse)
- I just drop all my files in a single project tree. In eclipse,
you cannot do this, because git wants one project per git repository.
(and lots of other reasons)
- way better support for web development than eclipse (well, I have to be
precise: better support than the plug-ins that I somehow assembled myself,
to get something that allows me to do web development)
- unknown file types are never opened with the 'system editor'
...
For me, the JetBrains solution just works. I have spent many man-months in the
last 15 years on eclipse installation issues. With Jetbrains, I had no
installation issues so far.
For me, JetBrains works and eclipse requires a lot of maintenance to be useful.
If you have to deal with lots of languages that are not Java, the effort to
get a comfortable environment with eclipse is tremendous.
> Does anyone know what the 'random NullPointerException/IllegalArgumentException exception alerts. "
> is all about? Is this an issues specific to STS or something
> people are seeing with base EPP packages?
I have had this with Luna JEE, because some javascript in my workspace caused some strange
parser crashes (in the automatic build) and then I got this totally annoying modal error
dialogs (which should be banned form eclipse in my opinion). This problem is fixed with SR1.
To not only be negative, I also wrote down my thoughts how eclipse could improve
the situation for those who are working on multi-language projects.
"How to make eclipse attractive to new communities?"
http://michaelscharf.blogspot.de/2014/05/how-to-make-eclipse-attractive-to-new.html
I can't say, how sad I feel that I am not using eclipse. But my focus is to get things
done for the start-up project I am currently working on. It is not Java and I need
a solution that works. I would actually pay 10x more for an eclipse solution than
what I currently pay for the JetBrains solution...
Maybe I miss something and there is an eclipse based solution that works the way I need it.
The really funny thing is, to edit files directly on servers I am using emacs again, the
same way I used it 30 years ago: working remotely using a terminal emulation....
Michael
On 2014-10-15 16:16, John Arthorne wrote:
I thought it was fairly balanced overall, listing pros and cons of each IDE. Does anyone know what the 'random NullPointerException/IllegalArgumentException exception alerts. " is all about? Is this an issues specific to STS or something
people are seeing with base EPP packages? Sounds like a flaky plugin to me, but hard to say from lack of detail.
John
From: Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Discussions about the IDE'" <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 10/15/2014 06:10 AM
Subject: [ide-dev] Yet another article advising to leave Eclispe
Sent by: ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
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_http://java.dzone.com/articles/netbeans-ide-and-intellij-idea_(added to _https://wiki.eclipse.org/IDE/Criticism_)
The "one-too-many" reason that made user leave the boat is recent unstability of STS.
The list of "Pros" for other IDEs are criticism against Eclipse.
--
Mickael Istria
Eclipse developer at _JBoss, by Red Hat_ <http://www.jboss.org/tools>_
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