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[hyades-dev] Meeting Notes for 12/14 Hyades Execution Meeting
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The meeting notes from yesterday's
execution meeting are attached, as well as from the the 11/30 meeting,
which I noticed I had never sent out (my apologies).
Kent
Kent Siefkes
Rational Software
IBM Software Group
Phone: 919-486-3233, IBM T/L 526-3233
Execution Team Group Weekly Meeting, 11AM Eastern, Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004
Attending
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Kent Siefkes, IBM Rational Raleigh
Todd Merriweather, IBM Rational Raleigh
Joe Toomey, IBM Rational Lexington
Scott Schneider, IBM Rational Raleigh
Proposed Agenda
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1. Review 3.3/4.0 features
Recorded Discussion/Decisions
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3.3 enhancements
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59905 - want to reprioritize to be P2 at best, owned by URL Test team
61137 - majority of the work is in Agent Controller. Joe will talk to them in terms of committal, and change component/owner if appropriate.
63140 - Dominique provided estimate, and we expect his team to do that work (confirm).
63734 - Component should be changed from Test.http to Exec.harness, and owned by that team.
63736 - Pending(P2). Changed owner from Scott Schneider to Todd Merriweather (owned by URL Test team)
68553 - Owned by URL Test team.
69208 - Pending(P2). Owned by doc, URL test team will provide the text.
73177 - Owned by datapool team.
73178 - Owned by datapool team.
74791 - Question about owner and who did estimate (Dominique)?
74805 - Owned by test harness team.
74807 - Requirements still unclear (design doc skeleton only). We already do testcases, but if all of the rest is needed the 3 week estimate is way too small. Question about
application deployment being in charter. Owned by test harness team.
74827 - Owned by doc.
74841 - Owned by manual test team.
74864 - Probably goes away based on proposed implementation for 73178.
73178 - Owned by datapool team. State is confirmed, but status is Pending? Design there, but missing estimate.
74923 - Owned by test harness team. Estimate missing. 3.2 progress bar improvements may have largely address this already.
74955 - Owned by Lexington test ui team.
74964 - Owned by Toulouse test ui team.
74999 - Pending(P2). Don't plan to commit.
75002 - A good portion of the work is in Agent Controller file transfer service. Scott will talk to owners in terms of committal, or who should do the work.
75026 - Owned by URL Test team.
75028 - Pending(P2). Don't plan to commit.
75029 - Owned by test harness team. Design in place, but missing estimate. Depends on 4.0 features 74632 & 74633.
75030 - Owned by Lexington test ui team, but most improvements are below UI.
75032 - Pending(P2).
75380 - Owned by Toulouse test ui team, needs support from test execution harness team. Question about estimate.
76160 - Pending(P2). Question this shouldn't be P1, as it relates to 75030.
Skipped 76686 - 76695 Pending(P2)
76950 - Owned by Toulouse test ui team. Needs estimate.
76952 - DUPLICATE of 75030.
4.0 enhancements
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61127 - Owned by test harness team.
61133 - Owned by test harness team.
70764 - Owned by Lexington test harness * teams, involves many components. Missing estimate. "2 rough" probably only half of what is needed.
72038 - Owned by URL Test team. Missing Estimate. "12 rough" somewhat high, but contains uncertainty.
74796 - Owned by Toulouse JUnit team.
74806 - Unclear requirements and feasibility. At minimum, description needs to be changed.
74917 - Owned by Toulouse test harness team. Estimate missing (no "rough" estimate either). Probably 4 weeks.
74926 - Owned by URL Test team. Missing estimate.
75018 - Pending(P1) Owned by Lexington test ui team. Change component to UI.test. Missing estimate.
76699 - Pending(P1) Owned by Lexington test model team. Estimate missing.
76849 - Pending(P1). Owned by Lexington test ui team. Estimate missing.
77657 - Pending(P2). No plan to commit. Should be defect.
New Action Items
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* Update missing estimates, per above.
Execution Team Group Weekly Meeting, 11AM Eastern, Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004
Attending
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Kent Siefkes, IBM Rational Raleigh
Todd Merriweather, IBM Rational Raleigh
Joe Toomey, IBM Rational Lexington
Scott Schneider, IBM Rational Raleigh
Julien Canches, IBM Rational Toulouse
Jerome Gout, IBM Rational Toulouse
David Hodges, IBM Rational Raleigh
Eugene Chan, IBM Rational Toronto
Wayne Ho, IBM Rational Toronto
Proposed Agenda
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1. Status update on integration of Test Harness and Profiling - Scott Schneider
(there is missing UI extensibility functionality uncovered since last week's meeting that prevents the feature from being delivered as intended in 3.2)
2. Review of requirements for 3.2 i2 enhancement 74962 - "Provide Logical representation of test artifacts in Test Navigator".
(This is primarily a UI issue, but it affects user experience of test execution, and the UI team has asked
this to be added to the execution meeting this week, and follow-on discussion as needed will be held in Wednesday's UI meeting.)
Recorded Discussion/Decisions
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1. Scott ran into two implementation limitations
A. No extensibility mechanism to put generic Agent-specific UI (such as to select counters of interest) on launch config
B. Discovery mechanism for agents installed on a node (couldn't find a way to list anything other than ones already running)
1. Need to handle the case where agents are installed but not running, and Test Harness will invoke them (such as perfmon)
2. Discussed several situations...
C. Options for 3.2i2
1. Today's UI will allow us to only support perfmon, and support on one node only -- this was rejected
2. Do backend only (but it still has limit of 1B above) -- this was rejected
3. Defer this enhancement to 3.3 (needs to go through planning process) -- accepted
2. Recommendation to split this enhancement into two
1. Consistently use logical names for display within Test Navigator (already fixed in Bugzilla defect 71745)
2. Logical organization by asset type (not time to write & review proposal and implement in 3.2i2 - defer to 3.3)
a. recommendation is that it deals with user-definable asset type grouping, as well as handling sub-types of typed assets such
as testsuites and execution histories
New Action Items
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* Scott will get issue 1B on the agenda for next week's Agent Controller meeting
* Scott will take care of enhancement request retargetting
* Wayne will do the same to redefine this enhancement to only be part 2, and retarget. This will be reviewed in the UI group going forward.
