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Subject: Planning Group & PMC Group Notes for June 1st 2004
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 14:48:02 +0100
From: Michael.Norman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: din@xxxxxxxxxxxx, don.ebright@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, gian.franco.bonini@xxxxxxx, Michael.Norman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, rsinc@xxxxxxxxxx, slucio@xxxxxxxxxx, sluiman@xxxxxxxxxx, tyler.thessin@xxxxxxxxx, Melanie.Woods@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


1) Apologies etc.
	Attending:
	Mike Norman, Scapa
	Gian Franco Bonini, SAP
	Harm Sluiman, IBM
	Tyler Thessin, Intel
	Serge Lucio, IBM
	Don Ebright, Compuware

	Observing:
	Rob Sinclair, IBM
	Melanie Woods, Scapa

	Apologies:
	George Din, FOKUS


2) Minutes and matters arising
Minutes from past two meetings have been distributed to hyades-dev.


3) PMC and Eclipse interaction
Minutes of Face to Face meeting and placeholders for further inputs were 

distributed to planning group, to confirm the group’s proposal and 
that processes will continue as with the original project.
NEW ACTION - Mike to circulate this information on hyades-dev before the 

next meeting.

A prioritized feature list for v. 3.+ releases has been made available 
from the Hyades website.
NEW ACTION - Mike to raise awareness of document’s existence on 
hyades-dev and solicit feedback.

Harm has created a component matrix, and requested suggestions for 
titles. Tyler suggested that the list should be kept short so as to not 
overburden the matrix. The current profiles were suggested as a starting 

point and the point was raised that a lead was required for each 
sub-project. A diagram of roles has been created.

The PMC Charter amendments are progressing. The PMC structure is fine, 
but the project structure needs some work. A review meeting to discuss 
current state of documents (PMC Charter, PowerPoint slides, internal 
governance) was scheduled for Friday June 4th at 8am PST/4pm UK, to 
allow for a revision cycle to take place before the next planning group 
meeting. It was agreed that these documents should be made available 
online and that Mercury and HP should be given some advanced notice that 

these are due to become available, as a courtesy, given their interest 
in Hyades.
ACTION - Tyler circulate redrafted PMC charter (planning group)
ACTION - Tyler circulate draft briefing presentation (planning group)
ACTION - Tyler to alert Mercury and HP to availability of PMC-related 
documents.

It was decided that the planning group meetings should be moved to 
Tuesdays.

ACTION - Mike to brief hyades-dev on continuity of Hyades Subproject V 
3+ planning

4) Operation of the current plan
The development process document is in its final approval stage with 
Alex Nolan (Scapa) and Karla Cunningham (Intel). Should be available by 
the next meeting.
ACTION - Rob to send development process document to planning group 
before next meeting (June 8th)
ACTION - Rob to begin publishing his bug reports on the website.
Defect arrival rates have risen, due, in part to the additional testing 
that it going on. The number of high severity defects was a little 
surprising. More rigorous testing is required, i.e. testing other 
contributors' code.
The repository structure of CVS is not quite set.
Deployment problems regarding the manual test tools were experienced. It 

was surmised that this was broken as a result of the launch 
configuration code drop. 
2 weeks to shutdown. 1 week to fix major/critical defects.
Some critical defects that won't make 3.0 are already scheduled for 
inclusion in the 3.0.1 time frame.

5) Technical forward plan
ACTION - Mike to contact Mike Milinkovich and solicit feedback from Dave 

Thomson or John Weigand, regarding Eclipse post 3.0 plans.

6) Internal and external communication
Two conference calls have been held to discuss Eclipse positioning and 
the promotion of Hyades. In the first call which involved Mike Taylor 
who leads the Eclipse marketing team calls and Mark Johnson (both from 
Instantiations), who leads the PR sub-committee calls, concerns were 
raised regarding the proposed use of the tagline (for Eclipse) “the 
universal development platform”. The preferred Hyades “application 
optimization” positioning was also discussed. It was felt that the 
Hyades news would be ‘lost’ within the Eclipse 3.0 release, and a plan 
to prepare a separate media release one month after the Eclipse release 
was considered.

In the second call, which involved Skip McGaughey and Mike Milinkovich, 
a concern was raised that the use of Hyades (as the PMC title) might 
pigeonhole the new PMC in the same way as the project. It was recognized 

that Hyades is a significant brand within the Eclipse brand which 
required investment to maintain and progress it. The planning group 
affirmed that it sees no issues with the use of Hyades as the ‘brand’ 
name for the PMC.

A third meeting, this time face to face with Mike Milinkovich has been 
scheduled for June 15th. Tyler, Mike and Harm will attend. It was agreed 

that another conversation should be solicited with Skip before the 
meeting with Mike Milinkovich to review PMC documents and discuss any 
ongoing concerns.
NEW ACTION - Mike/Tyler/Harm meet Mike Milinkovich (June 15th)

Scapa presented three Hyades posters at an Eclipse Technology Exchange 
in Edinburgh at the recent ICSE event. Another, similar event will take 
place in Oslo on June 15th. Opportunity for other contributors to go 
along and represent Hyades. These exchanges open up a new 
academics/researchers audience to Hyades. Contact Melanie for more 
details on the Oslo event. Final deadline for participation is June 9th.


7) AOB
Serge has two Hyades webcam demos that can be made available on the 
website.
NEW ACTION - Harm to make these demos available on the website and send 
a note to hyades-dev.

Next Planning Group meeting: Tues, 08 June 2004 - 6pm CET / 5pm GMT / 
12pm EST / 9am PST

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