RE: [hyades-dev] Hyades icons

[Harm Sluiman <sluiman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

We are talking about different things.

This icon refresh was expected for some
time, and is about all the little graphics in the UI for buttons etc. Eclipse
has moved to a newer look and feel that is softer colors etc. That means
thousands of little graphics have to change. This is that work, not the
brand graphics, which as you both have noted is a bigger and different
process.

Thanks for your time.
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I'm not sure whether the Media Team (who presumably
are part of IBM) 
watch this mailing group and they may not be aware of the Eclipse/Hyades
internal processes.
 
Visual identity, trademarks, PR, positioning etc. are controlled top 
down from the Eclipse Foundation (currently through the Eclipse 
marketing group which was constituted by the board of stewards 
pre-incorporation) and not bottom up through the 
committers/developers/contributors. They are one of the few things that
the foundation itself actually owns (or rather plans to own). The 
process is a bit wooly at the moment, as is the scope of what is 
considered visual identity by Eclipse, but we need to see this kind of
stuff surfaced at the Hyades Management Call through (in IBM's case) 
either Serge or Harm, and Melanie then coordinates with the relevant 
Marketing and PR groups within Eclipse which are chaired by Mike Taylor
and Mark Johnson of Instantiations. 
 
We can start going through the process and asking the questions, but in
the meanwhile we should try and avoid blocking the process whilst 
getting some consensus amongst the contributing companies whose current
and future products are affected by this change.  Once we have sight
of 
the visual identity on this email distribution we should allow 48 Hours
for objections (fed through the various planning group representatives)
then people should make the change in CVS on the assumption that the 
issue won't be blocked at the Eclipse level if it is perceived as the 
settled will of the 6 companies with planning group representation.
 
Mike Norman
Hyades SubProject Lead
 
 

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Yes, this is for all of Hyades, including the Log and Trace Analyzer. 
The media team refreshed all org.eclipse.hyades* plugins that had icons.


Thanks, 
Curtis d'Entremont
Problem Determination Tools
IBM Toronto Lab

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Curtis,
Are any of these icons for LTA or are they not related to that?


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Certainly, I will send you a copy once I have them all. I'm not sure at
what level the icons were raised; the media design team was working on
these even before I inquired about it.

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Curtis d'Entremont
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Hi,

I have to say that, even though I am certain these new and updated icons
will work well, I would have expected this issue to be raised at the
Hyades project level and the PMC level, subsequently. I am not aware
that the Hyades planning group has been advised of the requirement for
updated icons.

I am also unsure whether the Eclipse marketing committee should be asked
to approve these, as it's not a subject that is raised very often. As I
represent Hyades at the marketing committee meetings, I would be willing
to take these updated icons to the committee to seek this approval, if
required.

Could you, Curtis, or the component owners, please send me a copy of
these when available?

Thanks and regards,
Melanie

Melanie Woods
Scapa Technologies
Tel: +44 (0)131 652 3939
Email: melanie.woods@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Folks,

I have received most of the updated Hyades icons (new lighter theme) and
will probably have them all within a day or two. I will be mailing out
the zips to the owner of each component as soon as I have them all.
Please open a bug to track this on your component and send it out for
review once you get the icons. I'm assuming no one will have objections
to the icon refresh.

Thanks,
Curtis d'Entremont
Problem Determination Tools
IBM Toronto Lab

Phone: (905) 413-5754
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