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[hyades-dev] Planning Group & PMC Group Notes for May 10th, 2004
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Apologies for the late distribution of these minutes.
Planning Meeting
1) Apologies etc.
Attending:
Mike Norman, Scapa
Gian Franco Bonini, SAP
Serge Lucio, IBM
Harm Sluiman, IBM
George Din, FOKUS
Don Ebright, Compuware
Bob Styles, Compuware
Brian Roberts, Compuware
Joel Hawkins, Compuware
Observing:
Melanie Woods, Scapa
Apologies:
Tyler Thessin, Intel
Rob Sinclair, IBM
2) Minutes and matters arising
Mike noted that Tyler would be unable to attend the meeting due to
illness. Harm noted that Rob would also be unable to attend the call.
3) Operation of the current plan
- Draft text outlining the Hyades position on supporting U2TP was sent
to the planning group prior to the call. Feedback requested prior to
distributing this position to the hyades-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx mailing group.
- Defect fixing continues. 30 defects were targeted to be fixed during
the M9 release phase, and the team is on target to achieve this. Only 2
new major bugs have been uncovered. The total number of bugs and
requests for future releases is currently 244. The team is confident
this number will drop.
- Rob is now tracking the arrival and fix rates of these defects.
Arrival rates have dipped under 100 per week. Agreement that it would be
useful to make these reports more widely available.
- Antony Miguel's (Scapa) manual test suites plug-ins for Hyades have
been reviewed and some changes made to their structure. These are
scheduled to go into the release.
ACTION - Rob to begin publishing his bug reports on the website.
4) Technical forward plan
- Mike emailed a request for additional requirements suggestions to
hyades-dev, but has had no response. He will send a second email
request.
- Mike had also emailed Scapa's suggestions for additional requirements
to hyades-dev, but had no response, so will resend this too.
- Harm and Serge, with the assistance of their teams, project managers
etc, are both documenting the IBM additional requirements suggestions
and will publish these prior to the face to face meeting.
- Gian Franco indicated that he may want to propose some ideas.
- Dan and others from Compuware suggested that the main issues from
their perspective at this current time were the data collection
infrastructure, including access to firewalls, and scalability.
- It was pointed out that there are currently no recorded bugs relating
to Hyades scalability.
ACTION - Mike to contact Dave Thomson regarding Eclipse post 3.0 plans.
ACTION - Mike to send second email to hyades-dev to request additional
requirements suggestions and resend Scapa requirements.
ACTION - Harm and Serge to make their additional requirements
suggestions documents available before the face to face meeting.
ACTION - Mike to confirm details of the Face to Face meeting (18-20th
May), and if a Planning Group call would be required next Monday (17th
May). (DONE)
5) Internal and external communication
- Serge has included additional information to his Hyades document based
on both Mike and Gian Franco's feedback, and will distribute updated
documents to the group (on hyades-dev). He has some resource to edit and
proof-read the document prior to uploading this to the website.
- Scapa is to use the posters from EclipseCon for the upcoming Eclipse
reception event at ICSE in Edinburgh (May 27th). Melanie is collecting
these for submission to the event organisers. Neil Sanderson, Antony
Miguel (both Scapa) and Gian Franco's posters have all been received.
Richard Duggan's (IBM) has yet to be received. Harm will ask him to send
this.
- Eclipse PR sub-committee are keen to distribute a press release
regarding 3.0. Melanie will coordinate with committee to send details of
new Hyades feature points for inclusion in this release. Proposed date
for press release is currently 21st June.
ACTION - Harm to ask Richard Duggan to send his EclipseCon poster to
Melanie for use at the Eclipse Technology eXchange (eTX) reception.
ACTION - Melanie to continue to pursue any PR opportunities for Hyades
with regard to Eclipse 3.0 PR activities.
6) AOB
- The attendees from Compuware agreed to be open about their attendance
at this meeting. Don Ebright will be the main Compuware representative
at the Planning Group meetings, while Joel Hawkins will sit in on the
Committer calls as an observer at first.
ACTION - Melanie to send minutes to Don Ebright.
Next Planning Group meeting: Monday, 24th May 2004 - 6pm CET / 5pm GMT /
12pm EST / 9am PST
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PMC Group Meeting
Notes will be distributed to hyades-dev after approval at meeting of May
24th, 2004
1) Apologies etc.
Attending:
Mike Norman, Scapa
Gian Franco Bonini, SAP
Serge Lucio, IBM
Harm Sluiman, IBM
George Din, FOKUS
Don Ebright, Compuware
Bob Styles, Compuware
Brian Roberts, Compuware
Joel Hawkins, Compuware
Observing:
Melanie Woods, Scapa
Apologies:
Tyler Thessin, Intel
Rob Sinclair, IBM
2) PMC and Eclipse interaction
- Mike briefly explained the drafting of the new PMC charter, the
processes Hyades is going through, and the discussion documents,
including the development process document, that are being produced for
further discussion and agreement at the face to face meeting.
- Rob, Alex Nolan (Scapa) and Karla Callaghan are still working on
drafting the development process document, although progress has been
made.
- The attendees from Compuware agreed that they were happy to engage in
these processes more fully following the face to face meeting and 3.0
release.
- If the new Eclipse Executive Director has been selected before the
face to face meeting, attempts will be made to make this person aware of
the group's proposals for Hyades.
ACTION - Tyler to document the PMC charter discussions held to date for
review at face to face meeting.
3) AOB
Nothing to report
Next PMC Group Meeting: Tuesday, 25th May 2004 - 6.30pm CET / 5.30pm GMT
/ 12.30pm EST / 9.30am PST