Re: [hyades-dev] Input documents for Hyades overview section

[Serge Lucio <slucio@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry for the late answer. I was reviewing
the docs to push them for the editing process...

p. 4 Yes, Test Context is simply what
used to be called a Test Suite in the UML2TP. I remove it for the sake
of clarity.

p. 5 I am not sure will get to reasonnable
estimates. I removed the cost aspect of it.

p. 9 I think we need to update the formation
document too.

p. 13 A Test Motivator is actually called
a Test Objective in the U2TP. It is what motivates a test.

p.15 Hyades doesn't provide that directly
but can rely on the team interface supported within Eclipse. This team
interface integrates with CVS, but also commercial solutions such as Rational
Clearcase

Updated document to follow...

Thanks, Serge.

Serge Lucio
Sr. Product Manager, Automated Software Quality
Rational CTO Team 
IBM Software Group
Office: +1-781-676-7673
Cell: +1-781-640-8902

"Bonini, Gian Franco" <gian.franco.bonini@xxxxxxx>
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04/15/2004 09:06 AM

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Hi,

I had a look at the document on 'Adopting the Hyades Platform'. I'm mostly
happy with it. A few comments: 

- p.4 mentions "Test Suites, Test Cases, Test Contexts". What
are test contexts exactly? The last I heard was that "Test Context"
was going to replace the concept of "Test Suite" in UML2TP. Is
that the case? (I haven't found any reference to Contexts in the latest
UML2TP spec). Or are they two different things? 

- p.5 I'm curious whether we can come up with reasonable estimates for
the number of Person Weeks/Months for adoption level 1, 2, etc. Since we
at SAP are at a very early stage on the Hyades adoption path, we cannot
provide numbers for that, and I would be very interested to hear about
other people's experiences.

- p.9 I was a bit confused by this picture. Perhaps we should first agree
on an architecture document to establish terminology and concepts we can
refer to in this slide. Currently we have the document on the "Formation
of the Hyades Project", dating from Oct. 2002. Is everything there
still relevant? For example, I was puzzled by the elements 'master' and
'Test Master Control Interface' on this slide. Sure enough, these concepts
are mentioned in the "Formation" document but I don't recall
them having been used in the discussions I attended. 
One small suggestion is to show explicitly on the picture what's part of
Eclipse and what runs on the RA Server. I also think the role of the 'value
pairs' that appear between the two RAC elements and between 'Test components'
and 'Executor' should be clarified. Why isn't there an XML Channel between
the two RAC components (as on page 30)? That channel is also used for execution
events, right?  

- p.13 What's a 'Test Motivator'?

- p.15 "Tests can be organized, versioned using Hyades test navigator...":
does Hyades provide any kind of versioning support?


Thanks,
Gian Franco

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Gian Franco Bonini
SAP AG



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Following the proposal sent last week to re-shape the Hyades online documentation
content, please find attached to this mail 2 proposed drafts. They obviously
need to be edited to fix my horrendous frenglish. So, at this point, please
focus your comments and contributions on the content :) 

Non-ASQ vendors (middleware/system/network providers) are not adressed
in these drafts. It is something that needs to be fixed, but I think we
should start the discussion. 

Thanks, Serge.

Serge Lucio
Sr. Product Manager, Automated Software Quality
Rational CTO Team 
IBM Software Group
Office: +1-781-676-7673
Cell: +1-781-640-8902
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