[hyades-dev] Planning Group Notes for April 5th 2004

[Michael.Norman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

1) Apologies etc.
Attending were
Mike Norman, Scapa
George Din, FOKUS
Serge Lucio, IBM
Gian Franco Bonini, SAP

Observing were
Rob Sinclair, IBM

Apologies etc.
Harm Sluiman, IBM
Tyler Thessin, Intel

2) Minutes and matters arising
Last week's meeting minutes approved.
ACTION - Mike to send these to hyades-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx

3) PMC and Eclipse interaction
Note from Tyler to Mike - we have very short timeline for driving 
forward PMC charter; eclipse board meets on Apr 15-16; charter needed by 


Apr 15; membership at large review period of 1 week recommended for all 
to review PMC charter, therefore document required by Thursday next; 
Alternatively proposal could be distributed at board mtg, with review 
period and electronic vote thereafter.  
Mike proposes to wait for: 1) M8/M9 release cycle to show flaws in our 
current process, and 2) scope of PMC could be set after next f2f; Mike 
suggests to ask Tyler to delay process thru Board of Directors (BOD 
meets every 3 months?)

Gian Franco to talk w/Mike Bechauf about approach; Serge to talk w/Dave 
Thompson for his view; Mike asked Harm (not on call) to post his views 
for planning group; Mike to inform Tyler that this has been floated to 
Planning Group, and continue to liase.

4) Operation of the current plan
- discussion about Hyades defects & features process; do SAP & FOKUS 
have Bugzilla accounts?  SAP=yes, FOKUS=no; 
- Test & test reporting process: Long-term plan use Hyades to test 
Hyades. Short term use Hyades Manual Test cases editor, possibly JUnit; 
probably not fully achievable by 3.0 M9 or even 3.0 GA, but attempt will 

be made; Serge: practical issues w/JUnit & JDT; Project schedule posted 
to eclipse.org/hyades under "Documents"
 
ACTION - Serge to take JUNIT issue forward to Eric Gamma for fixing 
(will report back shortly after 3.0)

5) Technical forward plan

ACTION - Mike to email Dave Thomson regarding Eclipse post 3.0 plans


6) Internal and external communication
Serge posted doc; to be discussed during next week's mtg; 
ACTION: all to review doc and post feedback to newsgroups before next 
week's Planners meeting. 
ACTION - Mike to draft an agenda for F2F meeting and distribute to 
planning group for comments
ACTION - Melanie to feedback on any current Eclipse PR activities

7) AOB

Nothing to report


Next meeting: Monday, 19th April 2004 - 6pm CET / 5pm GMT / 12pm EST /
9am PST