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[higgins-dev] Notes from August 14th Higgins developers call

 

Notes from the Higgins Developers call on Thursday, August 14

 

 

 Attendees

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* Greg Byrd - NCSU/IBM

* Tom Doman - Novell

* Andy Hodgkinson - Novell

* Ranjan Kumar - IBM

* Mike McIntosh - IBM 

* Dale Olds - Novell

* Ernst Plassmann - IBM

* Mary Ruddy - Meristic/SocialPhysics

* Jim Sermersheim - Novell

* George Stanchev - Serena

* Daniel Sanders

Paul Trevithick - Parity/SocialPhysics

* Brian Walker - Parity

* Tom Caroll - Parity 

* Mohamad Raji Gani - Oracle

 

 

  • Attendees

 

Time: noon EDT (1700 London; 1800 Vienna, Paris, Berlin)
Dial-in:
1-866-362-7064 / 892048#

Agenda

1. [Brian] Now working on 1.1M4.


2. [Mary] Status update on Eclipse SVN situation.

 

  • [Mike] Will we need to switch our repository locations?  Once we do, it may not be as easy to commit.  Want to know the repercussions.  We may not be able to easily re-commit the changes made to a different repository.
  • [Mary] I will clarify that.
  • [Mary] Any other issues?
  • [Paul] Understand that we can’t write to the repository.
  • [Mary] Eclipse has frozen it.  No news as of an hour a go.
  • [Andy] The last commit I show is august 1st. I had been committing almost the entire week until they locked down the repository.  I lost about a week’s work of changes.  I still have them on my hard drive.  It looks like they had restored a back up that was about a week old.
  • [Drummond] I joined.
 
3. [Brian] Nightly Auto-Test
  • Next   step is getting Mike's STS to build using headless Buckminster.  
  • [Mary] Mike any update on the build?
  • [Mike] In order to support other stuff.  I need to spend some focused time on other things.  Once I get to a stopping point, I will get back to work on this.
  • [Brian] The next item is internationalization. 
  • [Mary] David is on the call too.


4. [Brian & David] Internationalization    

  • See  http://wiki.eclipse.org/Internationalization_Support      
  • Ipzilla item 2515 has  been approved.  Waiting for SVN to open up to create Jar  file.    
  • Need to identify next components to work on.
  • [Brian] This centers on what we want to tackle next.  Have engaged in an offline dialogue with David and Ranjan to sort this out and propose that to the Higgins folks.
  • [David] We don’t have a priority after the IdAS and JNDI context provider.  It would be really up to the team about how they would approach it in terms of the priorities we have for this year.
  • [Brian] Does anyone else have any priority? For us to repeat what we did for IdAS and the JNDI CP?  Can send out message to the list for people.
  • [Brian] I will take an action to send a note to the dev list to see who else would be interested in going next and keep the ball rolling.
  • [Paul]  Do you know if Mohamad is on the call?
  • [Mary] Yes.


5. [Mohamad] New Oracle-provided Google Contacts Context Provider

  • Overview of functionality
  • Does it implement each contact as a separate Entity?
  • (Mohamad  has confirmed.)
  • [Paul] Can you walk us though the functionality and the model and any issues you have?
  • [Mohamad] A brief overview of what this really is and how if fits with the IdAS API.
  • [Mohamad]It is basically a syndication format of the ?? protocol. It is just to create contacts, and delete contacts.  It supports all the operations, authentication, and sending back the xml format.  Simply create context using http post.  This is internally done by the Google java client library. 
  • [Mohamad]It just allows you to access and edit the context.  You can also query the context. [For example]  Give me all the updates after a certain date. 
  • [Mohamad]Once have legal approval, plan to send it over to validate our code.  Each context is mapped to a unique ID a URI for that particular contact.  We use that URI as a unique ID.  The thing not completed until  now is auditing or batch updates.  Google supports  batch, but we don’t really do it now.  On the legal approval part, we are almost through. Are waiting for an official response from Oracle legal, and then we will be sending the code.
  • [Paul] Thank you.  This is great.  Does anyone else on the call have a question?
  • [?] It sounds like each contact is implemented as a separate entity id.
  • [Paul] Is this the right way?
  • [Drummond] This is definitely the right way.  It should definitely be entity.
  • [Mohamad] We used the JNDI base and mapped it from there.
  • [Paul]  Ah I see.  I’m not facile with the terms of service on the Google API. Have we looked at that? Are there any restrictions?
  • [David] I wanted to. I thought you need to have a develop key to use the API?  Not really just need a Google account.
  • [Paul] So there is no restrictions.
  • [??] There is no governor?
  • [Mohamad] No, currently restricted to 100 entries. I think in one shot.
  • [Paul]  In one shot?
  • [Mohamad] I can get 100 entries in one shot.
  • [Paul] Do you have any performance data?
  • [m] No I can do that next week and send that to you
  • [Paul]  Just interested.
  • [Mohamad] I can do that next week.
  • [Paul]  Next topic. 

 

6. [Mary] Next Higgins F2F

  • We had suggested  having a F2F just after DIDW, but there wasn’t a lot of energy around that. So  another idea might be having a F2F before or after IIW (November, Mountain  View) or at some other time
  • ttp://www.doodle.ch/vbyw4anyc3ezurv7 - Poll on having it after IIW (November 10-12 in  Mountain View)
  • http://www.doodle.ch/e29wa6a77ctg8ft5  - Poll  on ideal length
  • http://www.doodle.ch/pesa7yhbexbtm6n7  - Poll  on ideal  location
  • [Mary] I created three new doodles.  One for when people could meet after IIW, and two for having a meeting at some other time, not connected with an event. One is for the location and the other is for the length.  After this feedback, we may need to create a more fine grained Doodle.
  • [Drummond]  I didn’t know quite how to reflect. It seemed outside the scope of the doodle.  One comment is to have the F2F meeting with the OSIS meeting in London.
  • [Mary] What about IIW?
  • [Drummond] [There is a TC meeting that week.]
  • [Drummond] Not sure they are also in the planning stage.
  • [Drummond] Know that Tony is head of that TC.  There may be others in the same boat.
  • [Mary] Sounds like IIW isn’t a good time.  So may net out to having [the F2F at] a separate time and venue.
  • [Paul] That is a good plan.
  • [Dale] I think IIW is being overloaded in general.  This one especially.
  • [Mary] So I think we will not try for IIW.
  • [Paul] We could try some standalone times. And ask our generous Novel and IBM friends to provide a location. 
 
  • [Paul]  Is Jim is on the call?
  • [Jim] I’m here.
  • [Paul] Different topic.  I was wondering whether or not or when we night want to discuss the overall model API and replacing that with direct modeling of classes as entities.
  • [Jim] That is a good idea.  Shall we just say we are going to do it next week so that I propose something readable?   I really need to draw a picture. It will help people see and flesh out the detail.  Is a phone call the right forum for that?
  • [Paul] You could send to the list this as a potential Thursday topic and see if there are others who are interested. I know I am and Brian.  Some of our Ukrainian friends might be very interested.  So maybe you could send a link to the wiki and see what other people think.  It would also force me into a deadline.  Doesn’t need to be next Thursday.  Just picking a time.  So decide, think about it.
 
  • [Paul] Does anyone have any other topics?
  • [Dale] I do.  If I put on my OSIS hat, one of the things for DIDW was the suggestion that every project have a 1 pager that could be handed out at the event.  So as a Higgins participant, how do we get that done and get testing done between now and then? And furthermore there is a possibility of an actual presentation during the OSIS event. We are trying to not have project presentations per se.  I think Mary and Tom are also full. We need to plan for that and at least get the one pager done.
  • [Paul] I’m willing to contribute to the one pager.  When does it need to be done?
  • [Dale] Before DIDW.
  • [Paul] In terms of the testing.  DigitalME and Higgins use cases are so similar. 
  • [Dale] If tested on one selector, is effectively tested on both.
  • [Paul] Parity is developing a selector based on the AIR based selector, so we have a very similar situation to Novel.  There is a Parity selector that is largely the same as the Higgins one.  Brian if we are putting the resources in...
  • [Tom] We are planning on testing the Parity AIR selector.
  • [Paul] That is ok. That is what I thought. I think the right way is to put in a new column.  We call this the Azigo selector. 
  • [Tom] Should show up over this weekend.
  • [Paul] What I’m hearing is that there aren’t enough resources to go ahead to test both. Just as with Dale, they are so similar.
  • [Paul] The last thing Dale said is a presentation.
  • [Dale] At this point, lets drop this off, as we already have some involvement from Mary and others.  I don’t think we have room for a Higgins presentation. So let’s drop that one.  If there is anyone particularly interested talking about interoperability from a high perspective, we can add a few slides.
  • [Paul] That is great.  Just trying to understand.
  • [Paul] Anything else?
  • Silence.
  • OK
  • [Paul] I’m not on the call next week.  So could I have a volunteer?
  • [Brian] Yes.
  • [Paul]  Thanks everyone.  See you in two weeks (or for some one week.)
  • End.

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