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I think if we came up with text that is concise enough that people are willing to read it, and is accurate and not confusing or too abstract, the group would want to change to that.
>>> Anthony Nadalin <drsecure@xxxxxxxxxx> 06/25/08 11:15 AM >>>
I beg to differ that information cards are the unifying metaphor as that is assuming that there is an identity selector and that is not the underlying component in this project (it was and still and add-on). I think its also important that this project not get confused with Information Card Foundation as it seems that this is where it is heading.
I looked back through the meeting minutes and there is very little discussion about these pages and the direction that this project is heading.
Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122
 "Drummond Reed" ---06/25/2008 12:04:29 PM---+1. Tony, in all fairness, this topic has received a lot of discussion both on the list and on the weekly calls over the past f
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RE: [higgins-dev] Higgins Project in General
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+1. Tony, in all fairness, this topic has received a lot of discussion both on the list and on the weekly calls over the past few months. Numerous links were sent to the draft pages/graphics.
Yes, Higgins is about much more than information cards. But information cards are the unifying metaphor for a user’s interaction with Higgins components, so its a pretty good candidate, at least for the present, as the lead metaphor for the outside world to wrap their head around what Higgins is about and the types of problems it is solving.
I suspect we will be constantly iterating on Higgins positioning as the project keeps evolving and deployments increase.
=Drummond
From: higgins-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:higgins-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Sermersheim
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [higgins-dev] Higgins Project in General
I brought this up on the last dev call and also on the IRC.
The problem is that it's really hard to describe *what it really is* without either:
a) being so wordy that no one wants to read it
b) being so abstract that no one understands it
so I think the authors went for the most understandable, accessible language at the cost of hiding all that Higgins is.
BTW, no one has reverted my awesome IRC topic. It still says "Higgins - Open Source Uber Identity Framework" :)
>>> Anthony Nadalin <drsecure@xxxxxxxxxx> 06/25/08 10:36 AM >>>
Looking at the new home page, I would say I would strongly disagree that this page accurately represents the project, as we are not all about information cards at all, that is one subset component. It seems that changes are made w/o consulting the project team which is very discouraging. Can we go back to the old home page which more accurately reflects the project goals so that folks visiting the site have a better idea what Higgins is all about and don't get the idea that this is just about Information Cards (as its not).
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