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Re: [higgins-dev] IdAS interface questions

So, I'm not exactly sure what's being asked for. What is the actual problem?:

1) It takes too many API calls to access all values of all attributes

2) Too many protocol hits happen (inside the CP) when accessing all values of all attributes


If it's #2, I think there are things we can do about it.  If it's #1, what do you suggest?  The fact is that the Higgins Data Model drives the APIs.


You ask for "interfaces that will not need cycles and big number of separate calls".  I'm not sure how to do this unless we decided to serialize an entity and it's attributes and values (recursively) into some formated blob (like structured XML) and return that instead of objects that need to be traversed.  Is that what's being suggested?  If so, what will people do with that?  Most people will parse it and then use DOM APIs to traverse the tree of elements.  How is that different from what the existing Higgins APIs do?


Jim

>>> "Yuriy Pilipenko" <ypilipenko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 05/22/08 10:10 AM >>>

Hi, Paul.

 

Yes, inside provider we can get all the Entity information, cache it and return it by one piece at a call. Ok, when the Entity contains very big volume of information, such as Attribute with many simple values (collection), we can narrow the result by specifing only needed attributes. But how can we limit the needed info if the Entity contains some attributes with complex values which in turn can hold also complex values with their respective attributes as well as simple attributes with collections of simple or complex values wich in turn... and so on. Such Entities can be resource-intensive when loading in whole.

How can we specify loading not entire Entity but only needed info in the attributes of complex values? Now it can't be done. It may be possible when Iterfaces will become changed to use IEntity instead of IComplexAttrValue and adding probably getEntities(IFilter filter, Iterator attrSelectionList) method to IAttribute interface for example. However it still will require one separate call per such an Attribute with complex values - Entities. In this case provider may not load Entity's complex values at once when getting Entity.

 

Thanks and regards.

Yuriy.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:59 AM

Subject: RE: [higgins-dev] IdAS interface questions



We have had some conversations today about this. In brief there is a great deal that can be done in the CP to vastly improve performance. For example each call to get an attribute value of an Entity doesn’t imply that a SQL query (or LDAP query) is done. Quite the contrary, the entire Entity should be fetched from the backing store with one query and then this Entity responds from memory to each fine-grained get attribute call.


 



From:

brian walker [mailto:bwalker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Sent:

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:40 AM

To:

Paul Trevithick; Drummond Reed

Cc:

Valery Kokhan; Yuriy Pilipenko

Subject:

Fwd: [higgins-dev] IdAS interface questions

Importance:

High


 


hi Paul, Drummond  - just wanted to highlight Yuriy's message to Jim about improving IdAS query performance per ticket wwm-619. This can be discussed with Jim while you are with him over the next couple of days and send any feedback along....


 


thanks...Brian



Begin forwarded message:





From:

Yuriy Pilipenko <ypilipenko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


Date:

May 21, 2008 11:25:20 AM EDT


To:

"Higgins (Trust Framework) Project developer discussions" <higgins-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>


Subject:

[higgins-dev] IdAS interface questions


Reply-To:

"Higgins (Trust Framework) Project developer discussions" <higgins-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>


 


Hi, Jim.

We have some questions about IdAS interfaces. Now in order to get full information of Entity we need many IdAS calls, such as getAttributes(), getValues(), getData() etc. And the more actual data (more Attributes with values present) then more calls need to be done respectively.


For example to get the m-card with claims we need get many attributes for claim types, get their values, simple as well as complex, getting their attributes and so on. In common case to get the full Entity we need do something like this:



IEntity entity = context.getEntity(entityID);


Iterator itAttributes = entity.getAttributes();


while

 

(itAttributes.hasNext()) {


    IAttribute attr = (IAttribute) itAttributes.next();


    processAttribute(attr);


}


 


public

 

void processAttribute(IAttribute attr) {


    Iterator itValues = attr.getValues();


    while

 

(itValues.hasNext()) {


        IAttributeValue val = (IAttributeValue) itValues.next();


        if

 

(val.isSimple()) {


            Object data = "" val).getData();


            doSomethingWith(data);


        }


        else

 

{


            Iterator itAttr = ((IComplexAttrValue) val).getAttributes();


            while

 

(itAttr.hasNext()) {


                processAttribute((IAttribute)itAttr.next());


            }


        }


    }


}


Is it possible to reduce number of IdAS calls to get the full Entity data? May be it would be good to change interfaces so that it will no need in cycles and big number of separate calls...Probably it is possible to change IComplexAttrValue and IEntity interfaces, method getAttributes() so that we could be able to narrow the attribute set and filter them by value to get only information that we need, and get all of the attributes with values all in one at a time.


Thanks, Yuriy Pilipenko.


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