Notes from the Higgins Developers
call on Thursday, April 10.
Attendees
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Charles
Andres
Paula Austel -
IBM
Jeff Broberg
CA
*Duane Buss -
Novell
Anthony Bussani -
IBM Zurich
Greg Byrd -
NCSU/IBM
* Brian Carrol -
Serena
* Tom Doman -
Novell
Andy Hodgkinson -
Novell
Valery
Kokhan
- Parity Ukraine
David Kuehr-Mclaren -
IBM
Mike McIntosh -
IBM
Dale Olds -
Novell
Ernst
Plassmann - IBM
Uppili
Srinivasan - Oracle
Drummond
Reed -
Cordance
* Bruce Rich -
IBM
*Mary
Ruddy
- Meristic/SocialPhysics
Markus Sabedello -
Parity
* Jim Sermersheim -
Novell
George Stanchev -
Serena
* Daniel
Sanders
* Paul
Trevithick -
Parity/SocialPhysics
* Brian
Walker
- Parity
Jeesmon
Jacob
Carl Binding
Tom
Caroll
Ernst Plassmann -
IBM (STS, RP)
*
Attendees
Agenda and meeting notes
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1) [Paul]
Higgins Face-to-Face access control conversation
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- a proposal
was put forward by Tony...
- use
Entities & Attributes in the existing data model to represent
access
control
policy about the other, regular Entities & Attributes
- no XACML
dependencies for implementations or interfaces
- we would
use concepts from XACML, but express them in our own model
[Paul]
Tony was suggesting that we use the existing data model to model access control
policy for the rest of the model instance. We could define attribute
URI's that have semantics
to refer to other URI's. This would
be something we build up from simple building block capabilities as we need,
rather than take (whole hog) an existing set of semantics. We have a graph
data model. Let’s use it and have entities in the model referred to other
entities. That is the jist of the ideas. Comments?
[Paul] I will
edit the access control wiki page and put more specificity on it so that people
can comment.
(2) [Charles]
OSIS interop at RSA.
[Mary]
Charles is not on the call. We had our third “public” interoperability event
last week. There were over 50
projects and companies participating.
We found and are fixing a lot of bugs. We also had the opportunity to
talk more with companies who are thinking about using Higgins.
[Paul]
It turned out to be more rubbing shoulders with people already involved, rather
than a marketing opportunity. It felt productive.
3) [Brian]
1.0.1 bug fix release status update and learnings/plans for next
release
[Brian]
Status on patch release. We learned a lot about the process in terms of
making sure things are buttoned down. I’m sending regular notices to the
dev list. Right now I’m making sure fixes were checked into the right
branch. It is still a work in process. Looking to capture all elements and
hopefully get it out Friday. Will continue to update the dev list. Also
updated the proposal for criteria for future bug fix releases so people know to
check bugs into the right place. That was the big learning for this
release. Will try to apply new criteria to future bug fixes
releases.
[Tom] Have a
general question. I've gotten well over a 100 failure messages.
[Brian] There
were some auto build problems we are cleaned up.
[Greg] So we
don’t have to do anything? This
will be handled?
[Brian] Yes.
4) [Mary]
Opportunity to influence
CardSpace 2.0 May 22-23
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- Should we
have the next Higgins Face-to-Face in Redmond?
- See [2] for
link to wiki page to collect suggestions.
[Mary] We have often discussed things about
CardSpace we would like changed. At the RSA interop, Microsoft offered to invite
a few Higgins folks to Redmond to talk to their
engineers about what we think can be improved. They are at a stage in their
release process where they have the time to listen to input and to potentially
still make changes.
[Mary] Jim suggested that if we had a Higgins
F2F in Redmond, it might be easier
to get travel budget for this.
[Paul] A
question, could we have the F2F at Microsoft?
[Mary]
Microsoft said that they thought they could provide space.
[Paul]
Cool. We will send out a survey to
vote on having the next F2F at Redmond.
[Tom] We can
definitely talk about it on the Bandit team. We could arrange to send at least
one may be two.
[Paul] If it
is a Higgins meeting, the more the merrier.
[Tom] What
would the dates be?
[Mary]
Microsoft is available on May 22-23
[Tom] Bandit
will talk about it.
[Jim] I agree
that gives us a chance to run this by our people.
[Paul] We will put out a survey and see
who wants to come and see how big a room we need.
[Mary] I
created a first wiki page [2] below to collect suggestions for changes to
CardSpace. They could be about anything, the selector or the UI or the server
side. I will create a second wiki
page for the F2F agenda. (Page [3]
below.)
[Paul] Any
other topics?
[Daniel] Did you see the IRC conversation this
morning about people having an issue…. The problem is the Higgins app build.xml
files outside of Eclipse had a dependency on Eclipse home. Need to gen all
the build.xml files yourself in Eclipse.
Seems counter productive.
[Paul] Brian,
can you ping Valery?
[Daniel] I
feel like there are multiple problems. A long time ago we agreed people should
be able to pull down Higgins and install it without Eclipse itself. It appears
that along the way we have invalidated that.
[Paul] It
used to work, but now it doesn’t. Now you need Eclipse.
[Brian] I’m
pinging Valery.
[Daniel] It
is in the IRC log for last hour or so.
[Paul] Let’s
hope Valery can get some clarity on that.
[Paul] I
don’t think you have a (real) dependency on the core runtime. It appears to have
snuck in.
[Paul]
Anything else?
.-end
[1]
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Higgins_1.0.1
[2]
http://wiki.eclipse.org/CardSpace_wish_list
[3] http://wiki.eclipse.org/May_22-23_Redmond_F2F_Agenda