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[higgins-dev] Notes from the December 6th Higgins developers call

Attendees

Alex Amies - IBM

Charles Andres - Parity

 *  Paula Austel - IBM

*  Anthony Bussani - IBM

* Jeff Broberg CA

  Andy Hodgkinson - Novell

*  Duane Buss - Novell

* Greg Byrd - NCSU/IBM

* Brian Carrol - Serena

*  Tom Doman - Novell

*Jeesmon Jacob - Parity

   Valery Kokhan - Parity Ukraine

David Kuehr-Mclaren - IBM

* Mike McIntosh - IBM

 Tony Nadalin - IBM

Nataraj Nagaratnam - IBM

Dale Olds - Novell

* Drummond Reed - Cordance

*  Bruce Rich - IBM

 *  Mary Ruddy - Parity/SocialPhysics

  Markus Sabedello - Parity

 * Jim Sermersheim - Novell

 Uppili Srinivasan - Oracle

Jim Miles

*George Stanchev - Serena

  Daniel Sanders - Novell

*  Paul Trevithick - Parity/SocialPhysics

Igor Tsinman - Parity

Lex Sheehan

  *  Brian Walker - Parity

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* Present

Regrets:

Markus Sabadello

 

Proposed  Agenda

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1)  IIW - highlights, Identity agent vs. Identity selector terminology discussion

2) Status of builds work.  We now have new builds pages with the stable B1-0M9 builds.

3) Overall 1.0 Bug status.  Please review and update the list before the developer call today.  Link is available at the bottom of the components page.  There were 52 open items on Wednesday at 4:22 EDT. At the time of last week's call there were 66 items.

4) Update on the RP and RCP Selector code merges

5) IPR status update 

6) Planned Higgins special topic F2F on multi-protocol architecture, December 17-18 in NY. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Higgins_SAML_Architecture_F2F

7) Planned Higgins regular F2F January 15-17 in Provo http://wiki.eclipse.org/Jan_15-17_Provo_F2F_Agenda.  (Note new date)

 

Notes:

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1)  IIW - highlights, Identity agent vs.. Identity selector terminology discussion

[Mary]:  The Internet Identity Workshop(IIW) was held this week. It was a very good event for Higgins.

[Paul]: IIW was in Mountain View.  There were a number of sessions on VRM (Vendor Relationship Management).  It was good for Higgins.  People are realizing that r-cards can be very useful.  Did an r-card use case. 

[Paul]:  Some discussion about terminology: i-cards vs. information cards (Microsoft).  We agree we need one term.  Microsoft is now saying that the information card term can be broader than just CardSpace personal and managed cards.

[Paul]:  We also coined the term MSISIP, which some of the folks at IIW agreed to, which stands for Microsoft identity selector interoperability profile.  We are calling the whole thing an identity selector, and calling the cards i-cards or information cards.  MSISP is the name of the protocol used when interoperating with CardSpace...  There were lots of other good sessions, such as OpenID beyond 2.0. 

[Paul]: There was a lot of interest in Higgins.  There is a new OASIS TC on reputation standards.  Tony is a co-chair

[Drummond]: There was a VRM interoperability drill down session on a change of address use case, that discussed using Higgins

2) Status of builds work.  We now have new builds pages with the stable B1-0M9 builds.

[Mary]:  We now have stable builds for B1-0M9 and new and improved build pages that for each project show a list of all builds (nightly and stable and soon release) and if you click on a specific build you get a leaf page that has the links for all the downloads associated with the build.

[BrianW]: The only thing we need is some components are not yet included in the nightly build stream.  A list has been sent to the dev list. Items either need to be added or are not for 1.0

[Paul]: The new leaf node on any build has a machine generated list of dependencies. We are going to start relying on that and removing the dep column from the wiki, but first we need to move some additional info from these dep pages to the big third party dependency wiki page.  So if there are no objections....

3) Overall 1.0 Bug status.  Please review and update the list before the developer call today.  Link is available at the bottom of the components page.  There were 52 open items on Wednesday at 4:22 EDT. At the time of last week's call there were 66 items.

[Mary]:  One of our goals for today was for everyone to review and update the 1.0 bug list before today's call.  During last week's call we had 66 items.  We now have 32 items, so we are moving in the right direction.  Then discussed open items by owners. 

[BrianW]: We can commit to 6 of the items.  The other 6 still need more investigation.

[Jim]:  Should be able to get most of the items done, may need to move off 1 or 2 items.

[Mike]:  All my items are doable in a couple of weeks

[Mary]:  The only other person is Andy, who is not on the call.

4)Update on the RP and RCP Selector code merges

[Mike]:  We are just about ready to contribute the RP stuff, we are just cleaning up cleaning up copyrights.  How should Paula submit the code? 

[Brian]:  I think the right procedure is submitting a bug for the code to establish where it came from.

[Mike]:  I will work with Paula on this.

[Mary]:  Now that you've joined the call we should talk about the status of the RCP selector also.

[Mike]:  I'm in the middle of debugging the Eclipse RCP thing. Hopefully will be done in next day or so.

[Paula]:  So Mike,  the first one we submit will contain the handler for i-cards, but there is also one for open id.  Can't distribute OpenID yet as the provenance of OpenID hasn't been approved yet.

[Mary]: While I was at IIW, I witnesses the final signature on an OpenID IPR agreement.  So while it will still be while before OpenID code can be approved for inclusion in SVN, we are hopefully over the biggest hurdle.

[Brian]: One minor point on submitting code via bugzilla.  Need to submit the bug then revise to add the attachment.

[Paula]:  Thanks.

[Paul]:  So then there is a record of her code contribution via the bug, and the entry is authenticated..

5) IPR status update 

[Mary]:  Since last week the OpenXDI dependency has been approved for use and the C++ xmlsec can now be checked into SVN.  This leaves just two CQ's that are needed for 1.0 builds that aren't yet approved for check-in. They are Libxml2 2.6.29 and openXDAS 3.192.  These items are on hold pending requests for information from developers using them.  Hopefully, we won't have any more surprises in this area.

[Bruce]:  In regards to topic of additional items, The RP and RP demo ap could be put into the auto build.  I've been reluctant to put these in as they are about to be superseded by new things.  Should these be put into the attic or autobuild?  They may require additional libraries. 

[Jim]: If we want, we could add these to another directory for not ready for prime time projects. 

[Mike]:  I think we should do that - These are some things moving towards the attic rather than not ready for prime time.  The new new stuff Paula is working on would go to the new not ready for prime time (play) area.

[Mary]:  So we don't anticipate any new CQ's for new dependencies..

6) Planned Higgins special topic F2F on multi-protocol architecture, December 17-18 in NY. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Higgins_SAML_Architecture_F2F

[Paul]:Next topic is the wiki page for the multi-protocol architecture Face-to-face in NY.  There are 12 people expected to participate in the NY meeting..

[Mike]:  I will  work up a detailed agenda early next week.

[Brian]: I'm participating.by phone also.

[Mary]: So there are two participating from Serena

[Mary]: Mike after you have announced the updated agenda to the list, I will copy the other attendees who are not on the dev list.

7) Planned Higgins regular F2F January 15-17 in Provo http://wiki.eclipse.org/Jan_15-17_Provo_F2F_Agenda.  (Note new date)

Paul:  Reminder that have changed the date.  That meeting will be action packed. Lately the Higgins calls have been on bringing the release to closure.  They haven't been on innovation.  There is a lot of new stuff to talk about.

Paul:  Reminder we are time boxing release 1.0.  Release 1.1 will be more polished.  There are people who are starting to look at the code.  People are asking about unit tests, and instructions on how to take clean machine and build deployments. So there is more work.  We have all felt the right thing to do is to declare victory.  W also don't know what surprises may happen are we go through the review process for the first time.

[Mary] Once we have these final pieces of code done, and the status of the last two CQ's clarified, I will ask to schedule the formal release IPR review and the release review. (which can't take place until at least a week after the IPR review..

[Paul]:  That's all we have on today's agenda

[Jim]: Is there any plan to move stuff to the attic?

[Paul]: Yes, I plan to do that but I've been on the road for the last 6 days. 

[Paul]: I'll create an attic and also a nursery. 

[BrianC]: Also look at the new email on Valery's problems with SVN..

[Paul:] Thanks everyone.

 

 

 


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