RE: [gmf-dev] GMF downloads

[Vishwanath Ramaswamy <vramaswa@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Richard,
Wanted to give you a heads up on the
EMFT builds situation and also address some of the questions you have.
EMFT has starting producing integration builds along with EMF and UML2
every thursday. We also have enabled update manager capabilities today.
The update manager site is available at the EMFT download site. EMFT is
part of the Callisto train. So when you get a chance you can try to use
the update manager and load only the necessary features for GMF in your
build target environment. Let me know how is goes. We will be promoting
integration builds everyThursday.

Download site for the EMFT builds: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/emft/downloads/
Update Manager Site: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/emft/updates/
(you would need http://download.eclipse.org/technology/emft/updates/site-interim.xml
for integration builds)

The GMF runtime will start depending
on a new EMFT component called transaction in M5. This is also available
in the download site. So when you try to create your target this week you
can include the 2 features for transaction (available through the update
manager or the transaction runtime sdk). The features are:

org.eclipse.emf.transaction
org.eclipse.emf.workbench

The transaction feature already depends
on the validation component.  The update manager can let you assess
the current dependency of GMF on EMFT. Let me know how it goes and feel
free to contact me if you have any concerns. Your patience is much appreciated.

Thanks
Vishy Ramaswamy

"Richard Gronback" <Richard.Gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Thanks for the reply.
 
Some minor additions/complications…
the runtime will also require EMFT Validation, and the SDK will require
EMFT OCL and Query.  So, it’s probably easiest to just have the Runtime
require EMFT Validation, OCL, and Query.  We include/ship them all
with our Runtime builds today, but as EMFT has started producing builds
of their own, we should start using their downloads.
 
This raises the question of
what happens for Callisto, as EMFT is not “on the train”.  I’m
not sure of their release plan, but we’ll need a stable build to target
for our 1.0 release.  This includes update manager installation, but
I’m not sure if EMFT is available via an update site yet.
 
For now, I’ll continue to
pull EMFT from their repo and include it in our builds; that is, until
we can get some resolution on the questions above.  As for the changes
below, I can try and reconfigure our downloads this weekend or early next
week.
 
Thanks again,
Rich

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[mailto:gmf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frederic Plante
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:12 AM
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Hi Rich, 

These proposed configurations are reasonable.

    Thanks

       - Fred

_________________________________
Frédéric Plante
Rational Software, IBM Software Group

"Richard Gronback" <Richard.Gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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01/18/2006 05:05 PM

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Hi Anthony, 
  
I have often considered adding the documentation to the SDK build.  I
am less inclined to include the examples due to our external dependency
on EMF’s examples, which would therefore force someone installing our
SDK to install EMF examples.  Ideally, we’d eliminate this dependency
along with our UML2 dependency for testing, as proposed here
(but which proposes replacing UML2 with the EMF library example).
  
Another consideration is size.  The current SDK and Doc downloads
are about equal, so bundling together would mean a 23MB+ download.  I
haven’t heard anyone in the community complain yet, but then I’ve only
heard one suggestion from the community regarding our downloads, and that
was for an all-in-one bundle a la WTP.  
  
So, how about these download configurations:
  
1.        Runtime
(requires EMF + GEF + WST properties)
2.        SDK
(Runtime + Tooling + Documentation)
3.        Examples
(requires SDK + EMF Examples)
4.        Tests
(requires Examples + UML2 + EMFT)
  
Sound reasonable? Would we need a standalone Documentation download? Another
suggestion is the Runtime + ECore modeling example.  Lots of options.
 Perhaps the newsgroup is a better place for the discussion?
  
And then, what about the update site?  I wonder how many use it vs.
downloading zip files?  Personally, I find it more convenient for
getting everything I want in one shot, and it will better when the Callisto
site is up. 
  
Thanks, 
Rich

 

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On Behalf Of Anthony Hunter
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:33 PM
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Subject: [gmf-dev] GMF downloads
  

Hi Team, 

The GMF SDK includes runtime and source. It does not include the example
plug-ins and more importantly our documentation.

Should the SDK not include everything?

When I download the EMF SDK or GEF SDK, I get everything including examples
and documentation (although I will admit the GEF zip file is named ALL).

Any comments? 

Cheers...
Anthony
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IBM Rational Software: Aurora Core Common / Modeling Tools
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