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Re: [gef-dev] Fabian Steeg to help lead Zest

We have the same schedule as GEF.  The version number / API thing is no different than any other project IMHO. For example, p2 has different version numbers than equinox, but they are in the same project.  In fact, p2 has different versions across its bundles.  

I think grouping projects based on their 'goals' and 'intents' is the best idea.  And Zest/Draw2D/Gef all have similar goals -- runtimes for graphical manipulation of information.

Just my $0.02.

cheers,
ian

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If Zest has different release numbers and a different schedule from GEF,
does it make more sense for it to be a separate project? Just askin'

Wayne

On 02/10/2011 04:33 PM, Alexander Nyßen wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> what about the option to deliver Zest 1.x together with GEF 3.7 for
> Indigo and to come up with a Zest 2.0 & Draw2d/GEF 4.0 combination in
> 2012? I think there are a couple of things in Draw2d/GEF that could be
> cleaned up as well, and doing so would give us the chance to better
> align the three components with each other (I haven't taken a look into
> Zest 2.0 yet, but Zest 1.x e.g. had to "fork" XYScaledGraphics, which
> could be merged back into ScaledGraphics; I suppose there are similar
> places in Zest 2.0). What do you think?
>
> Cheers
> Alexander
>
> Am 10.02.2011 um 19:52 schrieb Ian Bull:
>
>> I will look at those...
>>
>> Just to be clear, we don't need to break existing users... we can ship
>> Zest 2.0 and Zest 1.x... we can also not put Zest 2.0 in the indigo
>> repo.
>>
>> But I will review the plan.
>>
>> cheers,
>> ian
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Anthony Hunter <anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>     That is good Ian, there is no official process as there is no such
>>     hierarchy. We are all GEF project committers and GEF is comprised
>>     of the Draw2d, GEF and Zest components. If you wish to share the
>>     leadership of the Zest component, that is fine (there are only two
>>     Zest committers :-)).
>>
>>     A reminder of our project plan at
>>     http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=tools.gef
>>     <http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=tools.gef>
>>     . Since we are bent on a major version change to Zest breaking all
>>     existing Zest users, concrete plans would be useful.
>>
>>     Cheers...
>>     Anthony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     From:         Ian Bull <irbull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:irbull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     To:         GEF development <gef-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:gef-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>, Fabian Steeg <fsteeg@xxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:fsteeg@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>     Date:         02/10/2011 12:09 PM
>>     Subject:         [gef-dev] Fabian Steeg to help lead Zest
>>     Sent by:         gef-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:gef-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>>
>>     I would like to nominate Fabian Steeg as co-lead for the Zest
>>     component in the GEF project.  While this is more symbolic than
>>     anything else (I'm not sure there is a formal 'lead' for component
>>     in the Eclipse Development Process).  Fabian is doing a majority
>>     of the work on Zest these days and he is showing great judgment.
>>      Fabian has an excellent understanding of Zest and has been
>>     working on the transition to Zest 2.0.  Having Fabian help lead
>>     Zest will make it a much better component!
>>
>>     I don't think there is an official process for this, but I assume
>>     that Anthony (GEF lead) and I both need to give a +1.  (This
>>     e-mail is of course my +1).
>>
>>     cheers,
>>     ian
>>
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