Re: [geclipse-dev] Minutes of the JSDL meeting from today

["Katarzyna Bylec" <katis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I'm writing to get feedback and collect opinions of grid users in our team  
;). As I'm not the most experienced in this field so I have a problem with  
deciding which solution concerning UI of second page of New Job Wizard  
(the one that allows user to choose data staging in and out) would be  
better.

The problem is that for now user can only specify INPUT and OUTPUT files  
(providing their names and locations). On JSDL meeting we decided that it  
would be nice if they will also be able to choose INPUT/OUTPUT type of  
file. But for INPUT/OUTPUT user has to specify 2 locations (source and  
destiny/target) and I'm not sure how would it be the best to present this  
information in a table, because this would mean I need one extra column  
used only for files of type INPUT/OUTPUT.
I don't think this solution will look good, so I was thinking about  
allowing user to choose INPUT/OUTPUT file when adding a new data staging,  
but as a result create two data staging: in and out and add both of them  
to the table, as a 2 separate rows.
And as we'd like to have table's cells editable - there comes another  
problem - should editing of INPUT part of INPUT/OUTPUT affect OUTPUT part  
(and vice versa)?
I don't like software trying to be smarter then user, so I wouldn't go for  
it.

And maybe we should resign form having INPUT/OUTPUT type?
What do you think about it?

--
Katarzyna Bylec

Dnia 14-05-2007 o 17:59:31 Kornmayer, Harald <Harald.Kornmayer@xxxxxxxxxx>  
napisał(a):

> Short minutes of the JSDL meeting
> 14.May 2007
>
> Participants:
> Katis, Mariusz, Pawel, Nicolas, Mathias, Harald
>
> conclusion:
>
> 1. the JSDL Wizard will concentrate on the generation of a simple JSDL  
> file.
> 2. But pushing the Finish Button of the JSDL wizard, the JSDL editor  
> opens for further editing.
> 3. The following changes should be included in the JSDL wizard:
> 	first dialog page:
> 		- only Application name and Executable should be specified.
> 		- The name of the job will be automaticly filled with the name of the  
> JSDL file
> 		- the application name combo box should be filled with entries, that  
> are specified in a preference pages
> 		- The Page 2 (standard input/output/Error) should be move to page 1.
> 		- The fields in the second column can be removed
> 		- The selected directory of the "File selection dialog..." should be  
> remembered.
> 		- The "File selection dialog..." must contain functionality to "create  
> a new file"
> 		- The "File selection dialog..." must contain the "related projects"  
> and the "mounted file systems" of the current project
>
> 	second page (Input/output staging)
> 		- The Table should be editable
> 		- The Dialog for "add/edit" a row needs improvements
>
> 	All other pages should be removed.
>
>
> 4. The JSDL editor needs some further refinement. The ordering of the  
> Elements should be more user centric/user intuitive/user incentive. The  
> input field which are used in most case must be easy accessible.
> 5. We agreed that we nevertheless want to build a full JSDL compliant  
> editor. That means that we can input data for all fields. (Even if  
> sometimes the content may force problems with execution. But if this is  
> the case it will be the responsiblity of the "submission wizard" to  
> query about such problems.
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Harald
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> =============================================
> Dr. Harald Kornmayer
>
> Institut für wissenschaftliches Rechnen
> Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe
> Postfach 3640
> 76021 Karlsruhe
> Tel: +49 7247 82 8600
> Fax: +49 7247 82 4972
>
> Project lead of the g-Eclipse project
> (www.geclipse.eu / www.eclipse.org/geclipse)
>
> Member of the D-Grid initiative
> (www.d-grid.de)
> =============================================
> _______________________________________________
> geclipse-dev mailing list
> geclipse-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/geclipse-dev



--
Katarzyna Bylec