Re: [europa-build-workshop] Model/Sample Build

[Dave Wolfe <dwolfe@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Whoa, I can see this is a hot and controversial
issue. So let's all just cool down for a second... :-)

OK, I'll split the difference. I'll
put together a trivial project to use as an example, collect material from
the existing pages, freshen it all up with new material and functionality,
and use that as the basis for a new wiki page upon which I will attach
(or link) a zip file with the example code.

I think for that you would still get
a penny back in change.

Thanks,
Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM
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Another option might be to include a zip with examples with your article
that people could use instead of including it in a cvs repository as a
project.  That way you wouldn't be responsible for continually updating
code to meet new requirements.  We used to try to keep our build scripts
in a format that would allow other teams to use them as a templates.  We
stopped doing this because it's extremely time consuming to help multiple
teams get their builds started and it took too much time away from our
other work :-)         
                    
                     
                
Here's a very compresensive existing article about setting about builds,
but some of the content could be refreshed to account for new functionality.
http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-PDE-Automation/automation.html

Anyways, just my 2 cents. 

Kim

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Hey All, 

I drew the action item to write up a wiki page that pulls together the
best practices, a living build, and a write up, to solicit a vote:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Europa_Build_Workshop_Report#Action_Items_for_BBP
October 15 

We had originally considered using the DSDP-DD build as the model build
since they had recently, successfully used the available resources and
procedures to construct their build. 
Since then they have been busy converting their build control over to Buckminster,
so they may not be the best candidate for the Europa era best practices
model. 

So, to complete this action item I think we have three possibilities from
here: 

1) Find a different project to use as the model build
2) Wait for the DSDP folk to finish up their Buckminster work and include
that in the model description 
3) Create a new trivial Eclipse project as a sample project, construct
its build to adhere to all the best practices of the Europan era, put it
in the build stream, and write it up as the model build.

I favor option 3 since, to my eyes, it fits into the l model of Eclipse
examples and tutorials that already exist. 
It also makes the model build available for folks to download and tinker
with and it could become the blank template from which one would start
constructing their own build. 
The con is that someone has to construct this thing, keep it up to date
through Europa initially, then modify it in the future to meet any new
best practices adopted in future releases. 
In terms of downstream dependencies it might represent a small risk to
the release. 


Opinions?

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