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Re: [equinox-dev] Equinox Aspects and OSGi Weaving Hook Service Specification (56)

Hi Martin!

I thought that the only thing this reimplementation would affect would
be how (using osgi weaving hook vs equinox internal mechanisms) the
aspects are woven, and would not affect other things such as which
aspects to weave, caching etc. But given your question it seems I
thought wrong.. Could you please clarify? Also I'm not quite sure what
is opt-in and opt-out.. Is this about which side initiates the weaving
(Eclipse-SupplementBundle vs Require-Bundle)?

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Martin Lippert <lippert@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hey Alexander!
>
>> Thanks for your answer, Martin.
>>
>> I will indeed try to re-implement aspect weaving to comply to the
>> specification. If I succeed I'll send you my result so you could maybe
>> just review it and give it a go saving some of your development time..
>
> Any contributions are of course highly welcome. Please let me know when you
> have something working here. Would be glad to take a look.
>
> The CVS resources are at the RT repository:
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/viewvc.cgi/org.eclipse.equinox/weaving/bundles/?root=RT_Project
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/viewvc.cgi/org.eclipse.equinox/weaving/features/?root=RT_Project
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Are you planning on implementing just pure aspect weaving for AspectJ, or
> are you also looking at the different aspect resolving mechanisms (opt-in
> vs. opt-out) and the caching for woven classes?
>
> Cheers,
> -Martin
>
>
>
>
>
>> Therefore could you confirm that these are correct links for latest
>> source of Equinox Aspects (I got them from the same web site which as
>> you said is a little outdated):
>>
>>
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/viewvc.cgi/equinox-incubator/aspects/org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.hook/
>>
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/viewvc.cgi/equinox-incubator/aspects/org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.aspectj/
>>
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/viewvc.cgi/equinox-incubator/aspects/org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.caching/
>>
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/viewvc.cgi/equinox-incubator/aspects/org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.caching.j9/
>>
>> I was confused by 'equinox-incubator' part. You told me that the
>> project has graduated to the main SDK so maybe it now resides
>> somewhere else?
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Martin Lippert<lippert@xxxxxxx> Âwrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alexander!
>>>
>>> Equinox Aspects is not the implementation of the OSGi Weaving Hook
>>> Service
>>> Specification. That specification is implemented as part of Equinox 3.7,
>>> I
>>> think. So if you use Equinox 3.7, you already have that specification
>>> implementation at hand.
>>>
>>> Equinox Aspects (now called Equinox Weaving) has graduated and ins now
>>> part
>>> of the Equinox SDK, so regularily updated by nightly builds, etc.
>>> Nevertheless there isn't much activity in this area over the past month,
>>> but
>>> its pretty stable and usable.
>>>
>>> The relationship between these two things are:
>>> - Equinox Weaving was implemented before the weaving spec came out, to it
>>> is
>>> still based on some Equinox-specific hooks deep inside of Equinox and is
>>> currently build mostly to weave aspects into OSGi bundles.
>>> - The OSGi Weaving spec was done to allow all kinds of bytecode weaving
>>> on a
>>> general level, so you should be able to re-implement the aspect-weaving
>>> part
>>> of Equinox Weaving on top of the new OSGi spec right now. I haven't done
>>> that (haven't found the time), but its on my list.
>>>
>>> The web will be updated soon to reflect all this...
>>>
>>> Hope this answers your questions!
>>> -Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Could you please clarify for me whether the Equinox Aspects is the
>>>> implementation of OSGi Weaving Hook Service Specification? The thing
>>>> that confuses me is that Equinox Aspects was last update May 1 2009
>>>> (according to it's home page
>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/incubator/aspects/index.php) and is
>>>> still in incubator state with Milestone 7 as the latest version while
>>>> OSGi Weaving Hook Service Specification (56) was added to the
>>>> specification starting with version 4.3 which was released about a
>>>> month ago.
>>>>
>>>> If the Equinox Aspects really is the implementation of this
>>>> specification then what is the current status of this project, what is
>>>> it's latest version and is it stable?
>>>>
>>>> If the Equinox Aspects is NOT the implementation of the specification
>>>> mentioned then what are the differences between the two and what can
>>>> help me in choosing between them.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance...
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