Re: AW: [equinox-dev] [sec] JAAS framework dependency on Eclipse

["Matt Flaherty" <mwflaher@xxxxxxxxxx>]

It's purely historical. Though I haven't
thought through a design on OSGi services in detail, I can't think of a
reason that it couldn't work off the top of my head. Transitioning to services
is certainly a design we can consider going forward.

-matt

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Matt Flaherty
Security Project Lead, Lotus Notes & Eclipse Equinox
External: http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/incubator/security/
Internal: https://cs.opensource.ibm.com/projects/eclipsesec/

equinox-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 09/04/2007
02:24:33 PM:

> I think the more general point here is why are extensions being used
here 
> instead of services (which already come built into the OSGi framework)
as 
> the means of connecting the various players of the JAAS framework?
Is 
> there something about the JAAS framework design that cannot be done,
or 
> done well, with services?
> 
> Sure one can install the registry (and its dependent bundles) on the
OSGi 
> framework and use them, but why introduce that coupling unless it
truly is 
> necessary? I would like to think that we may want to include the JAAS
> framework design in the OSGi spec. But I don't see that OSGi specified
> version of a JAAS framework will be based upon extensions.
> -- 
> 
> BJ Hargrave
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> Pascal Rapicault <Pascal_Rapicault@xxxxxxxxxx> 
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> The extension registry is an OSGi bundle, to that respect it runs
on any
> OSGi implementation.
> And for curious, it even runs without OSGi.
> 
> PaScaL
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>   From:       "Matt Flaherty" <mwflaher@xxxxxxxxxx>
  
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>   To:         Equinox development mailing
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>   Date:       09/04/2007 10:58 AM  
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>   Subject:    Re: AW: [equinox-dev] [sec] JAAS framework
dependency on 
> Eclipse 
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> 
> In the bug:
> 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=202156
> 
> Chris rightly points out that I may have been heavy-handed with 'pure'
;)
> 
> Certainly the registry can be used in other environments.. Though
I've
> never tried it, the framework may very well work if you simply include
the
> registry. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help get your
> environment up and running.
> 
> -matt
> 
> ---
> Matt Flaherty
> Security Project Lead, Lotus Notes & Eclipse Equinox
> External: http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/incubator/security/
> Internal: https://cs.opensource.ibm.com/projects/eclipsesec/
> 
> equinox-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 09/04/2007 10:11:25 AM:
> 
> > That answers my other question as well. Thanks.
> >
> > I'm going to file a bug right now and will contribute code if
I can come
> > up with something generic.
> >
> > I wonder whether the OSGi specification has already hooks available
to
> > put something like framework wide authentication.
> >
> > Thanks again and regards
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> > Matt Flaherty wrote:
> > >
> > > The authentication code currently relies on extension points
to
> > > contribute the JAAS artifacts, so I don't believe it will
currently
> > work
> > > in a pure OSGi environment.
> > >
> > > Nothing is currently planned in this direction - primarily
because no
> > > one has asked yet... Requirements (via bugzilla) and contributions
are
> >
> > > both welcome :)
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Matt Flaherty
> > > Security Project Lead, Lotus Notes & Eclipse Equinox
> > > External: http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/incubator/security/
> > > Internal: https://cs.opensource.ibm.com/projects/eclipsesec/
> > >
> > > equinox-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 09/04/2007 09:33:34
AM:
> > >
> > >  > Hi all
> > >  >
> > >  > I'm looking for a way to leverage the authentication
functionality
> > >  > provided by JAAS for an application running on
Equinox (not
> > depending on
> > >  > the rest of Eclipse). Is it possible to leverage
the Equinox
> > Security
> > >  > framework for this or is it necessary to use
the (Eclipse specific)
> > >  > extension points it provides to use it? Or are
there any plans on
> > making
> > >  > it a "pure" OSGi bundle?
> > >  >
> > >  > Regards
> > >  >
> > >  > Arthur
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