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Re: [epp-dev] Eclipse IDE on Windows Store?
I agree with that. But I've been told in the past, and hopefully I misunderstood, that there were legal reasons why we couldn't bundle the JRE with Eclipse shipped from Eclipse Foundation servers.

At QNX, and I know a lot of of other IDE vendors, we do redistribute the JRE with our IDE products. And, yes, it is a much nicer experience. I guess the legal situation, or more specifically, the risk management situation, is different when a commercial vendor does it versus the Foundation.

But keeping up with updates is a challenge for us as it would be for Eclipse.

Doug.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Eric Rizzo <eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Doug,
The Windows installer *is* a native launcher (according to Ed's comments in the bug); apparently what's needed are resources to either fix the Equinox launcher on OS X or build one for Oomph that works like it does on Windows.
I don't know whether the answer is to bundle the JDK or something else entirely; I just know that, to me as someone focused on community in the ecosystem, this should be a much higher priority than it appears to be (higher at least than getting into the Microsoft app store). It's a terrible first impression for newbie (to Eclipse) Mac users, especially those who aren't Java devs, who want Eclipse for some other purpose, and those don't already have a recent JDK installed.

Eric
February 9, 2016 3:13 PM
I have my doubts that redistributing the JRE/JDK is the best approach. It would be really hard to keep up with all the updates for it. I'd prefer if the JRE/JDK installers take care of that.

But really, how hard would it be for an installer to check for a JRE and prompt the user through installing it. I continue to believe that the best installer strategy is to use a native installer that can manage native things like this.

Doug.


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February 9, 2016 10:40 AM
On 09/02/2016 3:31 AM, Mickael Istria wrote:

I have, although it was over a year ago. It's ..... complicated. The issues are mostly around the packaging requirements and the legal terms and conditions. They are not insurmountable, but it would be a non-trivial amount of technical, legal, and administrative effort to get our packages into these channels.

In my humble opinion, if someone was volunteering to do more work in this area getting up-to-date packages into the Debian and Ubuntu apt repositories is where I would start. (I think you Red Hat folk are already keeping it current on Fedora/yum, right?)

Why do you ask?

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February 9, 2016 3:31 AM
Hi all,

Has anyone already evaluated the benefits/difficulties to have Eclipse IDE featured on the Window Store or other app stores?

Cheers,
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